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California to become first state to sell cheap insulin through state-backed program (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/10/16/governor-newsom-announces-affordable-calrx-insulin-11-a-pen-will-soon-be-available-for-purchase/

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[–] 88 points 1 year ago (34 children)

“Perfect is the enemy of the good”

Yeah no progress until we can instantly have 100% goal attainment!

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (28 children)

    Don't forget to not vote next midterms or primaries to show Newsom and the Dems we mean business!

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    Sorry. I'm not voting for an anti trans bigot, even if they happen to have a D next to their name.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Thanks for Trump a second time.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Sorry, trans folks have to have a longer time horizon than you might. If Democrats are allowed to slide into a full anti-trans platform, as their sister party in the UK did, then trans rights will be set back generations. If Democrats are allowed to abandon trans rights, it will be 50 years before those rights are regained.

    Look, I just don't respect someone mansplaining to minority group members about how you know their best interests better than they do. It's arrogance of the highest order. For trans folks, the danger represented by having both parties be anti-trans exceeds the danger of even another Trump term. At least Trump is an old fat fuck who's going to die soon. The Democrats going the way of Labor in the UK will subject American trans people to state repression for decades to come, with no hope of voting in any party who will help us. Frankly, from my perspective, it's better for the Democratic party to completely die off than it is to allow anti-trans bigots to win simply because they have a D next to their name. At least then space would be cleared for an actual worker's party to rise up. But really, for trans people, an anti-trans Democratic party is a much much greater threat than another Trump term. Because ultimately, state repression is state repression whether it's wearing a red tie or a blue tie.

    I'm looking decades into the future; you're myopically focused on tomorrow.

    Don't want trans people to stay home? Simple. Don't nominate a bigot for the Democratic candidate. You have three years notice. If you simply can't help yourself and nominate a bigot anyway, don't blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their oppressors. You'll have no one to blame but yourself.

    And frankly, at this point, anyone still saying, "vote blue no matter who" is a brain-dead muppet. It's obvious now that that rallying cry is a one-way street. Progressives are supposed to hold their nose and vote for bigots, but that expectation never extends the other way. It's just a cudgel used to blame minority groups for refusing to vote for their own oppression.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is ignoring reality and consequences of elections so hard that it reads like a right wing troll cosplaying a liberal. Congratulations, your argument is so shortsighted and devoid of insight that it is indistinguishable from satire.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They're not cosplaying a liberal, it's a pretty normal take among Leftists who criticize liberals. And more broadly, Democrats made "being the lesser evil" their main campaign strategy for so long that people are getting numb to it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    You know who’s even more anti-trans than Gavin Newsom? The fascists currently controlling every branch of the federal government.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    So are your saying that voting for Democrats or Republicans is the same thing?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Obviously not.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Republicans: Yes to genocide

    Democrats: WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU, but also yes to genocide

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Does the fact that one party wast to let the populace shape the narrative, vs the iron fist of fascism?

    Please tell me you can acknowledge this fundamental fact, it will help me gauge the rest of your responses

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Both parties fully engage in Manufactured Consent if that's what you're trying to say though not entirely clear. Also, Republicans are embracing not opposing Fascism in line with their drift to the far right over the years.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    No. Notice they said "even more anti-trans," not "just as anti-trans."

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I didn't realize there was an acceptable level of bigotry

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    There is bad bigotry and worse bigotry. If you don't have the option of no bigotry, you choose bad. Harm reduction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Nothing like pushing the Overton Window solidly into Bigotry.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Protest non-voting pushes the overtone window even farther to the right.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you suggesting non-voting and voting for Democrats is essentially the same?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, that protest non-voting helps Republicans, because it's much less likely a right-winger will protest non-vote.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Biden’s ineffective leadership and the centrist DNC gave America another Trump term. Trump should have been locked up immediately for their coup attempt.

    For the record, I vote in every election including the primaries.

    There’s nothing more reliable than a centrist attacking the base of the party for each and every single one of their losses. I’ve yet to hear Harris or HRC talk about their inept campaigns that keep trying to attract Republicans to vote for Democrats. It’s never going to happen. Maybe we can have a Cheney run the DNC.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Look, I'm all for incremental progress, but you don't start from a compromise position and then compromise further like the centrist Democrats have done whenever they've had power. You start with the hardline position (free, universal, single-payer healthcare funded by a progressive tax system) and then compromise from there only if necessary to get something done. Centrists stupidly think that they can get what they want without a fight by proposing something that's already a compromise, but the hardline conservatives are just going to fight anyway and the centrists are forced to negotiate. The result is that the right always gets a favorable outcome and the left feels betrayed.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Often the good is the enemy of the perfect. Obamacare was such a joke that it set the Democrats back a generation. They managed to get something passed, but their clinging to norms and refusal to nuke the filibuster meant that the bill was a pro-corporate mess so convoluted that people didn't even realize they were benefitting from it. It legitimately helped people, but it also so sabotaged the Democratic brand that it set progress back decades in many fields. We got Obamacare, but we traded Roe v Wade for it. Without Obamacare, abortion would still be legal nationwide. People saw what Democrats would do even with a supermajority, and many voters just gave up on politics entirely due to Democratic corruption and timidity.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    That is a saying by centrists for suckers. Nobody is asking for perfect. People want effective leadership.

    Seems like the only solution centrists support is stupid sayings to make people accept ineptitude and corruption.

    The DNCs ineffective leadership under Obama led to thousands of political positions lost throughout the country. They didn’t even bother locking up Bush and his cronies for their crimes.

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