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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

@majster @pegazz What's the difference? And why should anyone who isn't a fascist, a nazi, or a xenophobic nationalist care?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    I would say basic respect of human dignity. Fascism/nazism was always violent and unlawful. I care because fascism/nazism is really really terrible with horrible consequences for real people in real world and would thus like to now what are even talking about.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Are you saying the consequences of xenophobic nationalism are not terrible or horrible? Xenophobic nationalists respect basic human dignity?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    @wetling where I live (the USA), both fascism and nazism are lawful. Xenophobic nationalism is always violent and usually lawful. As you point out, all three have horrible consequences. So the distinctions @majster was trying to draw seem incoherent to me.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    To me arguing for changes in visa quotas and border control is not equal to advocating for forceful expulsion of people already living somewhere. To me that seems to be difference between moderates/fascists. CDU/AfD difference if you will.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    @majster The difference here is between someone who wants to enact violence against others by forcefully expelling them from their homes vs someone who wants to enact violence against others by denying them a safe haven after they have been forcefully expelled from their homes. To me, this falls under the category of "differences between nazis/fascists/xenophobic nationalists which only a nazi/fascist/xenophobic nationalist would care about". @wetling

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Umm, Trump has been forcefully expelling people en masse for quite some time now, and detaining large groups of people in horrible conditions (sound familiar?). Have you not been paying attention?

    The regime is absolutely, without a doubt, 100% fascist. It's following the Nazi playbook to a T.

    Stop sanewashing his actions.

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