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"Antifa has been around for almost a hundred years in some instances, going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany." —a dude arguing that antifa is bad (blacksky.community)
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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nazi Germany built it’s war economy on the backs of slaves. Jews, and political dissidents didn’t all go straight to the death camps; many went to slave labor facilities/camps until the conditions broke them and they were no longer useful.

So maybe not individual slave ownership, but mass state run slave labor absolutely. The end stage fascist economy can’t exist without it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just don’t think owning slaves equals fascism the way the comment I replied to says.

    I was mostly being silly when I made my original comment cause fascism didn’t exist back then. But I do wonder if fascism did exist, just without the name.

    But I also don't think a fascist would create the constitution as it was back then. Free speech, right to privacy, all the rights surrounding justice… Seems like a fascist would be against these things.

    I’m definitely unqualified to participate in a debate on what fascism is and isn’t, so if there’s something I’m missing, please let me know as this stuff is very interesting, and Google doesn’t usually help.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm just confused what definition of fascism you're going off of where the British parliament imposing a tax on tea is fascism but people of one race owning people of another race and forcing them to work though beatings and abuse isn't.

    But yes the real answer is that they were neither pro- or anti-fascist because fascism wasn't a thing. In terms of history, I don't really think we should label it fascism anytime someone does a bad thing. But if we are going to use it that way then we should do so consistently.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    What about the constitution and bill of rights? That honestly feels like something an anti fascist would write to prevent a fascist from taking over.

    When I read about fascism, though, it is never about owning slaves. It’s more about how the government treated its citizens/media/economy/etc. Maybe it’s something they did, but owning slaves was not what made them fascist.

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