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πŸ₯° he loves you, he just refuses to show it πŸ₯° (midwest.social)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
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God is love just don't ask for the receipts

He's all powerful except for whenever

How many Jesus, the Living Embodiment of YHWH, does it take to change a lightbulb

buddy christ meme "i could definitely help you with that, i just won't"
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Thats not true.

I lack the ability to flap my arms and fly into the air.

Does that mean I lack free will?

Why is the ability to do evil required for free will, when so many other abilities are not?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    This makes no sense. To do evil is nothing like a physical ability.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Why not?

    Are not evil things a series of physical actions?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Evil actions are, but not will. Will is what command the choice between different physical actions, some good, others evil. If you retire evil from the equation, you have only one option and then, no choice, and then no will, thus no freedom.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You've not explained how... why are some actions required to be permitted for free will but not others.

    If will is what matters, what if someone was allowed to want to do evil things but not allowed to physically perform evil actions. Would that not suffice?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Imagine you have two meals before you, a pizza and a burger. You're free to want either of them, you're free to say what's your preference is, but I physically restrain you and force you to eat the pizza whether you prefer it or not. Would you consider yourself free?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    But in reality, there can't be two perfectly good options. Without evil at all, there's always only one option. And God doesn't give options, he gives freedom. In that allegory he gives a fork and money to buy lunch. Humanity chose instead to buy rope and use the fork to kill the neighbour's child… God can't be accused for that.

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