Saik0Shinigami comments on Trump urges Americans to work harder despite spending 22% of term golfing

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Biden golfed a total of nine times.

Biden & Obama weren't a golfer though... so looking at just golf is dumb for them.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/biden-took-off-577-days-in-4-years-tops-modern-era-presidents/

Biden’s out-of-office ratio far surpasses time off taken by Trump — who spent 26% of his first term away from Washington, D.C. — 381 of his 1,461 days in office, records show.

Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama vacationed for just 11% of their two-term presidencies — and workhorse Jimmy Carter took only 79 days of breaks, accounting for 5% of his single term in office.

Obama was low, Biden was stupid high. Trump is in the middle here.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

The article discussed golf. I replied with golf. It’s apples to apples. You want to butwhatabout the rest of the time? Ok.

Fuck the NY Post. Just another sensationalist rag. If you want to be taken seriously, find a source that isn’t a right wing mouthpiece.

In contrast,The Washington Post, which used White House pool reports, reports that Biden spent 256 days on vacation or at one of his homes in Delaware through May 22, 2023.

Former President Donald Trump spent a little over a quarter of his presidency, around 380 of his1,461 days in office on personal trips.

Trump's time out of office earned a of media attention because he spent most of his time away, around 250 days, at properties he owned -- and would therefore financially benefit from by his presence -- during his presidency.

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However, Snopes comprehensively analyzed the former president's public calendar, research from his administration and pool reports — detailed daily dispatches from the White House press corps tracking Biden's movements — and found that the RNC's claim was inaccurate. It is difficult to define what a "vacation" is for a president, given that a president is never away from duties. Therefore, Snopes determined how many days he was in a vacation setting.

Based on this definition, Biden spent 117 or 118 full days of his 1,461-day presidency (Jan. 20, 2021 to Jan. 20, 2025) on vacation, or about 8% of his presidency. He also spent 66 days, about 4.5% of his presidency, partially in a vacation setting.

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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So then you admit that

Biden golfed a total of nine times.

Is a bullshit comparison then?

Edit: Interesting that you trust snopes.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/snopes

NY post is effective the same , but other direction. So if my source is unusable then so is yours.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-post

But still... your source says way more than 9 days out of office... and certainly not all that far away from trumps numbers at best.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

Lol, amazingly selective reading where you deliberately skipped past the “apples to apples” statement. I also included two separate sources, which named where and how they got the info, and offered alternative interpretation of the numbers unlike the NYP. Which you obviously spent zero time reading. Just in case you pulled the “your site sucks” bs without any refutation of the actual facts as presented. You butwhatabouted right past everything of substance and offered nothing in return. That’s called “bad faith” discussion, and I’m not wasting time on you. Blocked.

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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My sole and only point was exactly what I said, which was that both Biden and Obama weren't golf players. Comparing a specific activity was disingenuous and you did specifically that.

I literally just grabbed the first fucking link I saw because the point was that Biden was out way more than 9 days/times. Your source proved that. My point is done. The rest is in your own fucking head. I don't care what source it is. You're going out of your way being obtuse about how you specifically compare shit.

You call me bad faith, your original post was outright a lie.

Edit: Oh and you complain that I didn't read the NYP... except it calls out George Bush for taking a bunch of time at his estate.

George W. Bush spent 1,020 – or 35% — of his 2,922 days in office away from DC in his two terms, including plenty of time at his Texas ranch, according to tallies by the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

But see, I did read it and you clearly didn't. The numbers specifically don't matter. It's the fact that comparing Trumps primary leisure activity and comparing it to other presidents who don't do that activity is just... dumb. Should be comparing actual apples to apple. Would be comparing all time used, or all time used on primary recreation activity. Golf vs golf is stupid, because the others didn't golf. But see I already explained that and you're just too dense to actually understand the point.

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