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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (33 children)

So, why are you indifferent to Russia committing genocide, but not to Israel?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (32 children)

    Russia isn't committing genocide, fucking duh

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    So, your standard is "Imperialism is fine, as long as you're not committing genocide"? Also, Russia not committing genocide is highly questionable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    The current regime in Ukraine is the result of a coup staged by the US, it's our imperialism at work as usual. Yes Russia sucks ass, the US is still the bigger problem globally and a loss for the US proxy state is a preferable outcome. There's nothing questionable about whether it's a genocide or not, the only people claiming it is are feds pushing for more gun money and incurable fucking morons.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    The current regime in Ukraine is the result of a coup staged by the US

    No, it's not.

    There’s nothing questionable about whether it’s a genocide or not

    Let's examine Russian war crimes, shall we:

    • Abducting 121,000 thousand children
    • Arbitrary detention and forced disappearance
    • Attacks on Civilians
    • Attacks on Hospitals and Medical facilities
    • Destruction of energy infrastructure
    • Destruction and theft of cultural heritage
    • Torture of Civilians
    • Use of Human shields
    • Sexual Violence
    • Looting
    • Forced Conscription
    • Mistreatment of POWs

    Yeah, so I'm basically just going through the sections of the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_(2022%E2%80%93present)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    Yes it is, anything's possible when you make shit up, Wikipedia is not a source, try harder patriot

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    War crimes have occured =/= these specific claims are true

    I'm noticing a conspicuous absence in the article you linked of any mention of the word genocide, and absolutely nothing about any number of kidnapped children much less a fucking hundred thousand of them

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not sure why I even bather, but regarding the kidnapping of children: here is the case presented by the ICJ: https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and

    Not sure why I am trying as you seem so adamant in deluding yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Another source that provides fuck all for evidence and doesn't bother to mention even a broad range of how many children have allegedly been taken, yeah you are delusional if you think this in any way substantiates the extravagant claims made here

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    Idk what part of "wikipedia is not a source" you're having trouble understanding

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    The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact included a secret protocol to establish spheres of influence across Europe. If we exclude pacts with only Axis signatories, then what's left are mostly non-aggression pact. Actual non-aggression pacts, not an let's wage an unprovoked war of conquest on Poland pact.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Davidlowrendezvous.png

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (16 children)

    Lol making excuses for when your side teams up with Hitler for fun & profit, making up bullshit "secrets" about the soviets when they do it as a last resort for self-preservation

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    A non agression pact is not teaming up. Here's an example of what teaming up looks like:

    And god damn, the USSR completely fucked up in Finland. Like, why the hell invade Finland in the first place?

    Edit: Upon rereading the comment, I found that I had mixed up Sweden and Finland. In my defense, they're right next to each other.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (14 children)

    Lol excuses for me, condemnations for thee

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (13 children)

    Why the fuck did Stalin think invading Finland was a good idea?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Because they were collaborating with the fucking nazis maybe? Idk seems like as good a reason as any

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    The reason to invade Finland wasn't sue to Nazi collaborationism, Finland still wasn't allied with the Nazis. The reason was the need for the USSR to put additional territory between themselves and the Nazis due to the geography of the region, i.e. the Great European Plain, a vast flatland without natural defenses that is very hard to protect from Nazi blitzkrieg. USSR attempted negotiations with Finland to gain terrains to have control over lands further from Moscow, Leningrad and the oil fields at the south of Russia, and only when those negotiations failed did the Soviets invade. This isn't just explicitly what the Soviets were saying at the time of negotiations, it was openly said so by all western leaders at the time of the Molotov Ribbentrop truce:

    “In those days the Soviet Government had grave reason to fear that they would be left one-on-one to face the Nazi fury. Stalin took measures which no free democracy could regard otherwise than with distaste. Yet I never doubted myself that his cardinal aim had been to hold the German armies off from Russia for as long as might be” (Paraphrased from Churchill’s December 1944 remarks in the House of Commons.)

    “It would be unwise to assume Stalin approves of Hitler’s aggression. Probably the Soviet Government has merely sought a delaying tactic, not wanting to be the next victim. They will have a rude awakening, but they think, at least for now, they can keep the wolf from the door” Franklin D. Roosevelt (President of the United States, 1933–1945), from Harold L. Ickes’s diary entries, early September 1939. Ickes’s diaries are published as The Secret Diary of Harold Ickes.

    "One must suppose that the Soviet Government, seeing no immediate prospect of real support from outside, decided to make its own arrangements for self‑defence, however unpalatable such an agreement might appear. We in this House cannot be astonished that a government acting solely on grounds of power politics should take that course” Neville Chamberlain House of Commons Statement

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Wasn't openly allied with the nazis yet, was clearly inclined to due so long before it was official, was clearly still a motive for the soviets, fucking duh

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    My point is you don't need to assume inclination to allying with the Nazis. I personally believe it too, but the motives for the invasion were ultimately different, as explained by the sources I've given you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You have no point, you provided no sources, they didn't need to assume anything because they knew it for a fact

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I provided three sourced quotes from contemporary western sources corroborating that the given reason for invading Finland was to put extra Soviet-controlled territory between the USSR and Nazi Germany.

    Additional source, from Wikipedia's article of the Winter War:

    "In April 1938, NKVD agent Boris Yartsev contacted Finnish Foreign Minister Rudolf Holsti and Finnish Prime Minister Aimo Cajander, stating that the Soviets did not trust Germany and that war was considered possible between the two countries. The Red Army would not wait passively behind the border but would rather "advance to meet the enemy". Finnish representatives assured Yartsev that Finland was committed to a policy of neutrality and that the country would resist any armed incursion. Yartsev suggested that Finland cede or lease some islands in the Gulf of Finland along the seaward approaches to Leningrad, but Finland refused"

    Your and Soviet gut feelings about Finns collabbing with Nazis, however right they ended up being afterwards, weren't the official reason to invade Finland's south, the reason was simply putting extra land on the way, as explicitly said by Soviet officials during negotiations to try and peacefully get that land, and as proven by the fact that the Soviets stopped the war when they got these territories.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Claiming that a person said something is not even close to the same thing as providing a source that proves they said it, and a handful of quotes from leaders of countries that are not the soviet union would prove absolutely nothing about the motives of the leaders of the soviet union even if they weren't entirely unsubstantiated. You're bad at this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    They weren't doing that when Stalin invaded them. Stalin squandered any advantage he could have possibly gotten by collaborating with the Nazis through invading Finland. Which ironically, pushed the Fins to actually ally with the Nazis.

    And why the hell did Stalin invade Poland? The guy sounds less and less competent the more you learn about him, doesn't he?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Historically illiterate and/or full of shit, try harder

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, I suppose I shouldn't waste my time talking to a reactionary shitlib.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol I'm a communist, you don't know what words mean

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