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[–] 5 points 1 year ago* (27 children)

Calling a genocide a genocide should not be a partisan issue, and if you think we need to temper our discussion of genocide so that your preferred genocider can win a fucking election then you are a genocide denier.

The way for the dems to differentiate themselves on this issue was to stop doing a genocide. They couldn't do that, and so they enabled the worse option because they were just too horny for killing brown kids.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    You're angrier at leftists for correctly calling out the dems' genocide than you are at the dems for their genocide.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    I'm angry at leftists helping elect trump thus creating MORE genocide.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    If mentioning a genocide helped elect Trump, then doing the genocide helped Trump far more, so I don't know why you're not attacking the dems for that.

    The genocide charge wouldn't carry any weight if it wasn't true.

    Why is this genocide more important to you as a political football than as, you know, a genocide?

    You're a genocide denier. You're not denying it's happening, you're just denying it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    I'm not denying it's worth talking about. I'm saying that "not making the genocide even worse" is more important than feeling morally superior on the internet. Some people obviously disagree.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    So are you mad at the dems for making the genocide even worse by doing a genocide which helped them lose an election thus making the genocide worse?

    Why is it leftsts' fault for telling the truth and not dems' fault for making it true?

    Why do we have to be fair to the dems to agree that Trump's genocide would be worse when the dems worked so hard to make "worse" virtually unimaginable?

    Why do we have to be fair to you by always saying Trump is worse but you don't have to be fair to us by acknowledging that there is an actual genocide?

    Just because you have some mental gymnastics to explain why the dems' genocide is somehow something we shouldn't talk about doesn't mean you're not denying it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I have acknowledged that there is a genocide hundreds of times, check my comment history, and I can say it again: fuck Israel and fuck the IDF, they are commuting genocide and the world is standing by either helping or not stopping them. I don't see any harm in repeating it again.

    Now: The American people decided who wins the election, not dems. Not the DNC. Not George Soros. If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    But every time we said the dems were doing a genocide we were supposed to say that Trump would somehow be worse, but when you complain about us talking about the dems' complicity in genocide, somehow you don't have to mention that it's a genocide? Because you didn't do that.

    And despite the fact that you acknowledge the dems are complicit in genocide, you have no criticism of that becuase... something about democracy?

    Also if the electorate wants genocide that badly, then why is it bad if we put the genocide at their feet? Aren't we helping them in that case? What are you upset about then?

    If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).

    You should say, "Yes, that's my favourite genocider! A vote for Joe is a vote for genocide!" waves tiny plastic flag

    Your genocide apologia is breaking your brain.

    You could also learn the most basic facts about the US electoral system and understand that it is not democratic in the slightest, and people do not have a meaningful chance to vote for what they want.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Pick a lane to acuse me of, you're all over the place. Do you think I like genocide or that I want to minimize it?

    My point is very clear: people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including "genocide Joe" chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide. Maybe even for some unpaid vacation in Iran.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    I think you think the electorate likes genocide, or at least you said so, so I don't understand why you think accusing Joe of genocide would have lost an election.

    If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).

    people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including "genocide Joe" chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide

    This isn't hard to figure out, but I guess my brain isn't broken by genocide apologia so I maybe I can't understand.

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    That's weak, doesn't explain anything, and I think I'm done giving oxygen to a genocide denier.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And I'm done discussing with a kid rapist.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    At least you didn't spend that comment on genocide denial, so let's call it an improvement.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    At least you commented instead of diddling kids, so win-win.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I just want to point out that you've given up trying to make an argument and are now simply calling the other person a pedophile. That's about the biggest admission you can make that you have nothing to say.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, I though we are just exchanging made up accusations. If that is an admission, they ran out of things to say first.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That was me, actually, and I didn't run out, it is still valid. You are denying that we should criticise the dems for their genocide, and you haven't gone back on that. That is a kind of genocide denial.

    Your entire point in calling me a pedophile was that you literally could not substantiate it. You were talking out of your ass. You were done with any sort of argument.

    It's amazing that you don't see what that says about you, just like you don't seem to see what an absolute repudiation of the democrats it is to say that it is useless to accuse them of genocide because the choices in your "democracy" cannot exclude genocide.

    And you wonder why so many people stayed home.

    It was already turbo genocide, and the idea that what's happening now is somehow worse is just your fantasy.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You mean the genocide that Harris said that she was going to support?

    It's always amazing to me that Democrats get mad at people who couldn't stomach voting for genocide, instead of getting mad at the people who ran a pro-genocide campaign.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also apparently leftists have to temper our criticism of a genocide by mentioning that Trump is always somehow worse despite there being no evidence that it is materially any worse under him - that's literally a counterfactual - but somehow this person gets to criticise us for mentioning a genocide without acknowledging that it is actually a genocide.

    It's genocide denial, but they're not denying it's happening, they're just denying that it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I always read it as "It's not a big deal, as long as it's my team doing it". See also: Sending immigrants to torture prisons, rape, caring about corporations more than people, suppressing the working class, war, etc.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well, enjoy the textbook ethnic cleansing that was announced. On top of the continued genocide. Good job!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I will not, as I voted against it, which is more than the Democrats can say

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Was there a candidate that was against it? There were two options: genocide and turbo genocide. A vote "against it" (third party) is a vote that helped the winner.

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