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Which movie was it for you? (where the actions of the bad guys were actually relatable?) Humor (i.postimg.cc)
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[–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Disagree. Some antagonists are bastards, and you can obviously make a good movie where people oppose them.

The bad guys in Star Wars are Nazis. "You do not, under any circumstances, 'gotta hand it to them.'"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I think you forget about the whole scene where Luke empathizes with his father at the end where he's about to die. Not to mention the entire of the prequels where it shows how Anakin was a good dude who had suffered so much, and that's what eventually drew him to "the dark side".

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So the original movie wasn't good?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The whole fucking argument is that you don't need relatable villains for a good movie.

    Acknowledging that woobifying Vader happened later isn't pedantic, it is the point.

    You don't have to empathize with Palpatine. He's a manipulative dictator. You don't have to empathize with Tarkin. You don't really need to empathize with any of the generals Vader chokes in the original trilogy. You are not expected to wonder about the inner life and emotional state of the bounty hunters who must be told, "no disintegrations."

    It is fine for a movie to have bad guys who are just fucking bad guys. Sometimes - that's how it is in real life.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Further sneering projection won't help anyone.

    Not even if you do it again about this comment. Can you imagine what it would be like if you're just plain wrong about my internal state? Like maybe steering the conversation back to the other guy's chosen topic isn't right-or-wrong based on some numbers above each comment?

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