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[–] 10 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

'the cloud' is just someone else's computer. The cheapest way is always going to be to use your own hardware. Get into homelabbing :D

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yes I am aware that I am paying to use someone else's hardware. I already self-hosted lots of stuff on my own hardware, renting a server has other benefits that my own hardware doesn't, mainly guaranteed uptime.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    In a lot of cases it's cheap and fun, but it can also be time consuming and easy to mess up. Hosting your own mail server for example is probably not worth it for most people.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Hosting your own mail server for example is probably not worth it for most people.

    If the homelab involves using an IP address under a residential internet service, that quickly goes from "not worth it" to "literally impossible".

    Unless you're willing to set it up so SMTP and IMAP are tunneled through a VPS that you also pay for, the story becomes:

    Why can't I receive my test mail?
    Oh, the ISP blocks inbound SMTP connections.

    Why can't I access my mailbox from outside my home?
    Oh, they also block IMAP and POP.

    Why do my outgoing emails all end up in the spam folder?
    Oh, most email providers insta-spam anything from residential IPs ranges.

    And then, even if it's not a homelab, DIY email hosting is:

    Oh my god, there's so much spam.
    I need to set up more aggressive filters.

    Why did this important email get filtered?
    Oh, I need to make the spam filter less aggressive.

    Why are my outbound emails being marked as spam?
    Oh, I need to set up DKIM and SPF.

    Why is it still being marked as spam?
    Wait, some providers require reverse lookup hostname of the mailserver to match the sender name? Fuck.

    Oh, ok, now my server or its IP block got added to a spam list.
    How do I get removed from the spam list?
    Painfully. Very painfully.

    And so on.

    It's really not worth it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Unless youre a large enterprise... hosting your email is always a bad idea. All it takes is one pc on your network to be compromised and get yourself on a spam blocklist. And good luck convincing all email services to unblock you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So you run everything through a VPS? Is that so very hard? You don't use the VPS directly, you use it for the RDNS and static IP.

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