MITM0 comments on Ubuntu Joins the Movement: X11 Officially Being Phased Out

I am unaware of the current goings on, but tentatively yeah. Don’t force switch everyone to Wayland without taking care of accessibility features first.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wayland is a major overhaul that massively improves things dev-side, security-side and hardware-support side, pipewire is not nearly as important of a change, and pulse wasn't nearly as horrible as x11

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

No it doesn't, at least not yet, it's half-complete & it's being pushed on us a little too aggressively inspite of the fact that again it's not fully mature & calling X11 horrible is a bit too dramatic on your part.

I can't put it in words but it seems a bit odd.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 year ago*

Half complete is a nonsense claim, all that's missing is better accessibility and some xdotool stuff. I'd go so far as to say that it's x11 that's half complete.

x11 is horrible... no way to support mixed refreshrate/dpi displays because it's fundamentally against the design, as well as no model whatsoever for security... yeah, wayland needs accessibility sure but at least it isn't fundamentally broken.

any app being able to keylog and screenread is my standard of a horrible model.

if you don't need accessibility stuff or an extremely small subset of xdotool functionality (see kdotool) it's better and safer in every way.

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