▲ 1463 ▼ Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper (lemmy.zip) submitted 1 year ago by favoredponcho@lemmy.zip to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 293 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] grill@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago (9 children) Is this fake? Or is it text on bullet casing fake? permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) Somebody had a link to a kill charlie kirk themed groyper site and I think all the bullet etched memes were there. The kids grandma said she didn't know any democrats and republicans don't kill each other so they must have arrested the wrong kid. He is a registered republican and donated to trump* A classmate called him a reddit kid as of 4-5 years ago (right wingers are circulating a redacted misquote that a classmate called him a "leftist") Like even if the kid wasn't a groyper he was likely being egged on by groypers. There's also this article going into different ties:https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-suspect-is-a-gun-loving-trump-supporter/ All in all he's at the very least alt right. *this last one may be a name mixup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) He was not registered republican. He did not donate to trump. He has a pretty common first and last name. Some people found someone with the same name in the voter and donor databases, but on further review it was someone else. The most current word from most publications seems to say that the shooter did not donate to trump, and was not registered with a party affiliation, and was an inactive voter not voting in the past few elections. I don't this this says much about his political affiliation leaning. Young people rarely have the disposable income to donate to political campaigns, and because of how american elections work with fptp districts, voting in a red state in a red city where 75% of the population votes republican would make no difference in the outcome, regardless of leaning. Most voters in this country are not able to make a meaningful choice at the ballot box, which is a contributing factor to the pitifully low voter turnout. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Do you know the website or the name of it? I tried to find it online or archived and can't. Because that would put this whole thing to rest if we had screenshots of a groyper website with those specific bullet messages. If it exists I'm surprised the news isn't all over it. Editing because I found this: https://www.groyperarmy.com/ It just leads to a shitcoin that was launched a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grill@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) As disappointed as I am, I don't see any concrete evidence to support the shooter is alt-right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) You are disregarding that the bullet text inscriptions are common alt-right memes? That the suspected killer is from a conservative family upbringing? Or you don't believe those inscriptions have nothing to do with the alt-right movements? That the conservative family is also to be disregarded? Now about more evidence of participation of the killer in alt-right movements, or other links, you can be damn sure the current US administration is not really intereesting in making any of that public anymore, since it goes against the current administration propaganda. If it was some "leftist" you can be damn sure there would be a deep investigation into the killers electronics, internet activity, and etc, to find other "leftists" and politicians to associate with him and ALL that would be publicized by Donald Trump himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fleet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are "Hey fascist, catch", and "Bella ciao" alt-right memes? I know at least "Bella ciao" is an anarchist thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) The lack of evidence is not evidence. The family's beliefs don't indicate what he believed, either. I really need a link or something that proves these are Groyper memes, published more than a week ago, because I'm not going to believe they are until I find that information. He could be ultra right wing, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying the evidence is bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Y'all are fucking nuts, trying to read something out of the bullet casing messages. Those were shitposts. He's trolling you. Do you get it? He wrote shitposts on the bullet casings. Jeeze. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) Somebody had a link to a kill charlie kirk themed groyper site and I think all the bullet etched memes were there. The kids grandma said she didn't know any democrats and republicans don't kill each other so they must have arrested the wrong kid. He is a registered republican and donated to trump* A classmate called him a reddit kid as of 4-5 years ago (right wingers are circulating a redacted misquote that a classmate called him a "leftist") Like even if the kid wasn't a groyper he was likely being egged on by groypers. There's also this article going into different ties:https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-suspect-is-a-gun-loving-trump-supporter/ All in all he's at the very least alt right. *this last one may be a name mixup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) He was not registered republican. He did not donate to trump. He has a pretty common first and last name. Some people found someone with the same name in the voter and donor databases, but on further review it was someone else. The most current word from most publications seems to say that the shooter did not donate to trump, and was not registered with a party affiliation, and was an inactive voter not voting in the past few elections. I don't this this says much about his political affiliation leaning. Young people rarely have the disposable income to donate to political campaigns, and because of how american elections work with fptp districts, voting in a red state in a red city where 75% of the population votes republican would make no difference in the outcome, regardless of leaning. Most voters in this country are not able to make a meaningful choice at the ballot box, which is a contributing factor to the pitifully low voter turnout. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Do you know the website or the name of it? I tried to find it online or archived and can't. Because that would put this whole thing to rest if we had screenshots of a groyper website with those specific bullet messages. If it exists I'm surprised the news isn't all over it. Editing because I found this: https://www.groyperarmy.com/ It just leads to a shitcoin that was launched a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grill@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) As disappointed as I am, I don't see any concrete evidence to support the shooter is alt-right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) You are disregarding that the bullet text inscriptions are common alt-right memes? That the suspected killer is from a conservative family upbringing? Or you don't believe those inscriptions have nothing to do with the alt-right movements? That the conservative family is also to be disregarded? Now about more evidence of participation of the killer in alt-right movements, or other links, you can be damn sure the current US administration is not really intereesting in making any of that public anymore, since it goes against the current administration propaganda. If it was some "leftist" you can be damn sure there would be a deep investigation into the killers electronics, internet activity, and etc, to find other "leftists" and politicians to associate with him and ALL that would be publicized by Donald Trump himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fleet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are "Hey fascist, catch", and "Bella ciao" alt-right memes? I know at least "Bella ciao" is an anarchist thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) The lack of evidence is not evidence. The family's beliefs don't indicate what he believed, either. I really need a link or something that proves these are Groyper memes, published more than a week ago, because I'm not going to believe they are until I find that information. He could be ultra right wing, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying the evidence is bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) He was not registered republican. He did not donate to trump. He has a pretty common first and last name. Some people found someone with the same name in the voter and donor databases, but on further review it was someone else. The most current word from most publications seems to say that the shooter did not donate to trump, and was not registered with a party affiliation, and was an inactive voter not voting in the past few elections. I don't this this says much about his political affiliation leaning. Young people rarely have the disposable income to donate to political campaigns, and because of how american elections work with fptp districts, voting in a red state in a red city where 75% of the population votes republican would make no difference in the outcome, regardless of leaning. Most voters in this country are not able to make a meaningful choice at the ballot box, which is a contributing factor to the pitifully low voter turnout. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Do you know the website or the name of it? I tried to find it online or archived and can't. Because that would put this whole thing to rest if we had screenshots of a groyper website with those specific bullet messages. If it exists I'm surprised the news isn't all over it. Editing because I found this: https://www.groyperarmy.com/ It just leads to a shitcoin that was launched a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grill@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) As disappointed as I am, I don't see any concrete evidence to support the shooter is alt-right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) You are disregarding that the bullet text inscriptions are common alt-right memes? That the suspected killer is from a conservative family upbringing? Or you don't believe those inscriptions have nothing to do with the alt-right movements? That the conservative family is also to be disregarded? Now about more evidence of participation of the killer in alt-right movements, or other links, you can be damn sure the current US administration is not really intereesting in making any of that public anymore, since it goes against the current administration propaganda. If it was some "leftist" you can be damn sure there would be a deep investigation into the killers electronics, internet activity, and etc, to find other "leftists" and politicians to associate with him and ALL that would be publicized by Donald Trump himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fleet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are "Hey fascist, catch", and "Bella ciao" alt-right memes? I know at least "Bella ciao" is an anarchist thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) The lack of evidence is not evidence. The family's beliefs don't indicate what he believed, either. I really need a link or something that proves these are Groyper memes, published more than a week ago, because I'm not going to believe they are until I find that information. He could be ultra right wing, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying the evidence is bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) You are disregarding that the bullet text inscriptions are common alt-right memes? That the suspected killer is from a conservative family upbringing? Or you don't believe those inscriptions have nothing to do with the alt-right movements? That the conservative family is also to be disregarded? Now about more evidence of participation of the killer in alt-right movements, or other links, you can be damn sure the current US administration is not really intereesting in making any of that public anymore, since it goes against the current administration propaganda. If it was some "leftist" you can be damn sure there would be a deep investigation into the killers electronics, internet activity, and etc, to find other "leftists" and politicians to associate with him and ALL that would be publicized by Donald Trump himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fleet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are "Hey fascist, catch", and "Bella ciao" alt-right memes? I know at least "Bella ciao" is an anarchist thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) The lack of evidence is not evidence. The family's beliefs don't indicate what he believed, either. I really need a link or something that proves these are Groyper memes, published more than a week ago, because I'm not going to believe they are until I find that information. He could be ultra right wing, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying the evidence is bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fleet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are "Hey fascist, catch", and "Bella ciao" alt-right memes? I know at least "Bella ciao" is an anarchist thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I'm not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist. And "groyper war" (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes. Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they're not related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) The lack of evidence is not evidence. The family's beliefs don't indicate what he believed, either. I really need a link or something that proves these are Groyper memes, published more than a week ago, because I'm not going to believe they are until I find that information. He could be ultra right wing, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying the evidence is bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Y'all are fucking nuts, trying to read something out of the bullet casing messages. Those were shitposts. He's trolling you. Do you get it? He wrote shitposts on the bullet casings. Jeeze. permalink fedilink source parent