Where are the #FreeTheHostages people now? Don't they have empathy for the kidnapped volunteers of #FreedomFlotilla?Does anyone care about their safety and well being? #Israel #Gaza #Activism #hostages #Piracy #SanctionIsrael #BDS @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel

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[+] -95 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I'm all for Greta's actions in nearly every aspect. But what was the freedom flotilla expecting what would happen? That they would peacefully land on the beach, help and go home and not be intercepted?

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  • [–] 93 points 1 year ago (9 children)
    • They were attacked on international waters, which is an act of piracy
    • Preventing access to humanitarian aid is a crime against humanity
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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Actually it was an act of war since it was done using the country's military.

    Piracy is reserved for unaffiliated parties.

    So essentially Israel has committed an act of war against whatever country the boats' are registered under

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not Italy. But Swedish, Brazilian, German, Turkish, French, etc.

    Those countries won't be too happy if Israel is kidnappings their citizens. And those countries may change their financial and diplomatic relationships with Israel as a result.

    Israel cannot continue the genocide without foreign support. Quite literally they need weapons from those countries

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Those countries won’t be too happy if Israel is kidnapping their citizens.

    One might expect them to care, but the Foreign Minister of Sweden was pretty unconcerned

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They have killed many European citizens, from journalists to aid workers, and none of the EU countries have even reduced their amount of support for Israel let alone condemned them on it. Why would they care now?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    States doing piracy to each other without war was a staple of the golden age of piracy. It was called privateering.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Right, modern day international law would define that as an act of war.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    It clearly is.

    Just because a nation commits an act of war against you doesn't mean that you have to declare war and attack. All it means is you have a justifiable cause to retaliate under international law

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    They knew with almost 100% certainty that they would be captured. The aid supplies were just enough to justify going to Gaza. If by chance they got through, so be it, some people got help. This is getting international attention and will hopefully ramp up the pressure for the home countries of these people to actually do something.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    approximately this

    This is how satyagraha activism is supposed to go: they've made the bad guys incriminate themselves and put themselves in a bad position legally and in public perception.

    Do you think they should have chickened out because of the possibility of arrest?

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Braindead comment. Literally this is what they expected. Either they get media publicity showing how Israel is transgressing and commiting crimes on international water or they get to Gaza and can help people there. Even if they didnt bring a cruiser cargo of supplies they can still actively help the situation there.

    They risk their lives fully aware of what the outcomes are and you are incapable of even thinking a singular action ahead - baffling.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly that would probably have been the smartest move for Israel. Let a token / useless amount of aid get through so they can say “see we’re allowing aid!”, but not enough to matter.

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