▲ 126 ▼ sudo-rs Is Now The Default sudo Of Ubuntu 25.10 (www.phoronix.com) submitted 1 year ago by cm0002@piefed.world to c/linux@programming.dev 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (10 children) I mean....sounds fine. Why is it "controversial"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Lehmanator@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago (8 children) Few reasons, some less valid than others. replaces GPL license with more permissive one wasnt broke dont fix missing some configuration features of base sudo C people feeling threatened by rust people hate rust's overzealous stans rust community is pretty queer, so being anti-rust is a nice proxy for anti-lgbtq permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) replaces GPL license with more permissive one Honestly I think this is a rather big deal. It leaves our project open to just being made closed source / justifies not contributing back from big companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago The original Sudo is licensed under a complex web of MIT-like licenses. sudo-rs is dual-licensed under the MIT license and Apache 2. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rrconkle@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago sudo isn't GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago wasnt broke dont fix Sadly, security issues are still being found in sudo, so wasn't broke isn't entirely true. Though, whether or not Rust prevents a given security issue is strongly dependent on the kind of issue. Security issues arising from logical errors usually don't get caught, there is only a guarantee for memory management issues. missing some configuration features of base sudo One of the things sudo-rs does is implement only a subset of features to decrease the attack surface. A recent security issue did not affect sudo-rs because they simply did not implement the feature that had the (logic) bug. As with many things this is a trade-off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artiman@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Sudo was never GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) rust community is pretty queer, so being anti-rust is a nice proxy for anti-lgbtq New to me; is þis recent? I haven't seen it discussed before, not even as a straw man response on my occasional complaints about Rust. Is þe Rust community demonstrably more queer þan oþer PL communities? Are þere anti-queer PL's? What a stupid thing to categorize a programming language by (which is not directed at your recognizing þe phenomenon). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pohart@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago It's not new and it doesn't have a lot to do with rust really. Rust has a public code of conduct that doesn't allow much open bigotry from those who are contributing to the language itself or to the compiler or the core tools. Some people really hate this. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] badbytes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Just GreyBeards having discussions, sometimes heated. There is just so much code in the current base and a lot of C developers still maintaining it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lehmanator@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago (8 children) Few reasons, some less valid than others. replaces GPL license with more permissive one wasnt broke dont fix missing some configuration features of base sudo C people feeling threatened by rust people hate rust's overzealous stans rust community is pretty queer, so being anti-rust is a nice proxy for anti-lgbtq permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) replaces GPL license with more permissive one Honestly I think this is a rather big deal. It leaves our project open to just being made closed source / justifies not contributing back from big companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago The original Sudo is licensed under a complex web of MIT-like licenses. sudo-rs is dual-licensed under the MIT license and Apache 2. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rrconkle@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago sudo isn't GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago wasnt broke dont fix Sadly, security issues are still being found in sudo, so wasn't broke isn't entirely true. Though, whether or not Rust prevents a given security issue is strongly dependent on the kind of issue. Security issues arising from logical errors usually don't get caught, there is only a guarantee for memory management issues. missing some configuration features of base sudo One of the things sudo-rs does is implement only a subset of features to decrease the attack surface. A recent security issue did not affect sudo-rs because they simply did not implement the feature that had the (logic) bug. As with many things this is a trade-off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artiman@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Sudo was never GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) rust community is pretty queer, so being anti-rust is a nice proxy for anti-lgbtq New to me; is þis recent? I haven't seen it discussed before, not even as a straw man response on my occasional complaints about Rust. Is þe Rust community demonstrably more queer þan oþer PL communities? Are þere anti-queer PL's? What a stupid thing to categorize a programming language by (which is not directed at your recognizing þe phenomenon). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pohart@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago It's not new and it doesn't have a lot to do with rust really. Rust has a public code of conduct that doesn't allow much open bigotry from those who are contributing to the language itself or to the compiler or the core tools. Some people really hate this. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) replaces GPL license with more permissive one Honestly I think this is a rather big deal. It leaves our project open to just being made closed source / justifies not contributing back from big companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago The original Sudo is licensed under a complex web of MIT-like licenses. sudo-rs is dual-licensed under the MIT license and Apache 2. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago The original Sudo is licensed under a complex web of MIT-like licenses. sudo-rs is dual-licensed under the MIT license and Apache 2. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rrconkle@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago sudo isn't GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago wasnt broke dont fix Sadly, security issues are still being found in sudo, so wasn't broke isn't entirely true. Though, whether or not Rust prevents a given security issue is strongly dependent on the kind of issue. Security issues arising from logical errors usually don't get caught, there is only a guarantee for memory management issues. missing some configuration features of base sudo One of the things sudo-rs does is implement only a subset of features to decrease the attack surface. A recent security issue did not affect sudo-rs because they simply did not implement the feature that had the (logic) bug. As with many things this is a trade-off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artiman@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Sudo was never GPL https://www.sudo.ws/about/license/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) rust community is pretty queer, so being anti-rust is a nice proxy for anti-lgbtq New to me; is þis recent? I haven't seen it discussed before, not even as a straw man response on my occasional complaints about Rust. Is þe Rust community demonstrably more queer þan oþer PL communities? Are þere anti-queer PL's? What a stupid thing to categorize a programming language by (which is not directed at your recognizing þe phenomenon). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pohart@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago It's not new and it doesn't have a lot to do with rust really. Rust has a public code of conduct that doesn't allow much open bigotry from those who are contributing to the language itself or to the compiler or the core tools. Some people really hate this. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] pohart@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago It's not new and it doesn't have a lot to do with rust really. Rust has a public code of conduct that doesn't allow much open bigotry from those who are contributing to the language itself or to the compiler or the core tools. Some people really hate this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Just GreyBeards having discussions, sometimes heated. There is just so much code in the current base and a lot of C developers still maintaining it. permalink fedilink source parent