▲ 21 ▼ "Legality Is Not The Defining Factor": Steam Censorship Campaign Details It Seeks Removal Of Games Whether Legal Or Not (www.thegamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/steam@programming.dev 6 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] mgnome@piefed.social -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) I'd say that creating the lootbox system that plagues modern games was Valve's biggest blunder, personally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't want to excuse Valve's involvement as they definitely shouldn't have joined on the wagon, but Valve jumped on an already existing wagon, they didn't create it. MapleStory did it like 6 years before Valve, and EA did it with FIFA almost a year before Valve with TF2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) The first FIFA game with lootboxes was 09 which came out in 2009. MapleStory's apparently did predate TF2's; but only by 3 years (2004 vs 2007), and it was only available in the Japanese version of the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) TF2 didn't originally have lootboxes though. They weren't added until the Mann crates in 2010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) I'd say that creating the lootbox system that plagues modern games was Valve's biggest blunder, personally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't want to excuse Valve's involvement as they definitely shouldn't have joined on the wagon, but Valve jumped on an already existing wagon, they didn't create it. MapleStory did it like 6 years before Valve, and EA did it with FIFA almost a year before Valve with TF2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) The first FIFA game with lootboxes was 09 which came out in 2009. MapleStory's apparently did predate TF2's; but only by 3 years (2004 vs 2007), and it was only available in the Japanese version of the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) TF2 didn't originally have lootboxes though. They weren't added until the Mann crates in 2010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't want to excuse Valve's involvement as they definitely shouldn't have joined on the wagon, but Valve jumped on an already existing wagon, they didn't create it. MapleStory did it like 6 years before Valve, and EA did it with FIFA almost a year before Valve with TF2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) The first FIFA game with lootboxes was 09 which came out in 2009. MapleStory's apparently did predate TF2's; but only by 3 years (2004 vs 2007), and it was only available in the Japanese version of the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) TF2 didn't originally have lootboxes though. They weren't added until the Mann crates in 2010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) The first FIFA game with lootboxes was 09 which came out in 2009. MapleStory's apparently did predate TF2's; but only by 3 years (2004 vs 2007), and it was only available in the Japanese version of the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) TF2 didn't originally have lootboxes though. They weren't added until the Mann crates in 2010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) TF2 didn't originally have lootboxes though. They weren't added until the Mann crates in 2010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Riiiiight.... Man, was it really that far away? It didnt feel like it back then. permalink fedilink source parent