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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

There have been a few studies looking specifically into this type of thing. The problem is that consumption of red meat tends to be correlated with poor diet, e.g., people who eat a lot of fast food end up eating a lot of meat, and very little fiber, lots of saturated fat, etc.

I remember hearing of a study that split people into tertiles of low, medium, high meat consumption and low, medium, high vegetable consumption, and the conclusion was that in people who consume a lot of veggies (who generally have a good diet) do not experience any negative effects of high meat consumption. I can't find the exact study, but I did find a study that seems similar (looks at meat consumption while controlling for diet quality using the HEI), and the one I'm thinking of is probably from the same lab.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sabine-Rohrmann/publication/236042790_Meat_consumption_and_diet_quality_and_mortality_in_NHANES_III/links/00b7d51d12a8fa827f000000/Meat-consumption-and-diet-quality-and-mortality-in-NHANES-III.pdf

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The trouble with NHANES is its observational epidemiology, we can find both positive and negative correlations with red meat i..e [Paper] Grilling the data: application of specification curve analysis to red meat and all-cause mortality

    If we control people for the Standard American Diet (no sugar, no processed oils, no processed food) - they will do well regardless of the specific intervention. I have epidemiology that shows people do meat on higher red meat consumption... but it has the same problems.

    I have strong opinions on Standards for Nutritional Evidence

    There are populations where consumption of red meat isn't necessarily correlated with a unhealthy diet like hong kong, and the Mediterranean (yes, many people in the Mediterranean actually eat red meat).

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