Every time you hear "without capitalism, nothing would get done," remember... capitalism didn't invent work, it invented wage-dependence. Humans built cities, farms, and art before payrolls and quarterly reports existed.
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I never go to those forums. I’ve never heard anyone who openly defends capitalism because I don’t know anyone who isn’t being fucked by it. Dunno what circles you’re running in where people are telling you how awesome capitalism is over and over but I don’t know people like that

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