What XMPP implementations do you recommend that compare to Matrix? One that people can reasonably assume encrypted message traffic without caveats and scales to about the 200 user limit.

Okay great. As long as theres no issue no harm having both. Id prefer to stick with f droid official app but at least I can use the other before download to check permissions.

XMPP is a pretty wide umbrella, with a lot of very mature alternatives that are stable and consume very little resources.

But also E2EE

Why not Movim? A lot more history; a lot less vibecoding.

fair enough. but most of what we use matrix for is chatting, meme channels, and gaming. and the voice features on fluxer are better than matrix, especially since not all matrix clients even support voice.

This is great. I had been using faststream before but it got removed and it also had problems with sites that used Anubis as (i think) it wasn't using the same browser session and creating a new request, which was blocked.

https://github.com/Andrews54757/FastStream

I tried your extension on redlib and while it grabbed the hls video url, it listed too many in the downloader UI. It probably needs a cleanup.

Thanks!

Had me at Matrix sucks, then lost me at Fluxer

Yes, droidify also uses fdroid repo (and more) so there should not be any conflicts in signatures. You might get a popup/confirmation when you update the apps for the first time indicating this app was previously updated by fdroid.

Well I'm part of a vegan cooking discord server where people share recipes, photos of what they made, ideas, blogs, links, questions across a few channels and the discord is way more active than the reddit and lemmy sites. There are about 200 members and at any time 30 people are online.

I've had both forever. It's been a while, but I remember switching without much issues.

i used to click it and simply set wine to open it on my environment. it started getting manage-y when i needed to configure it for certain apps and not others, and having to manage prefixes and winetricks and such.

wine-binfmt looks like another way to do the same if i'm not mistaken?

Ouch. Well I'm dumb. Installed the update, hated it, had to uninstall and reinstall my old APK from March. Got back my old version, stupidly didn't screenshot my repos. Fixed now, but oversight on my part! 😥

I didn't post this originally because I forgot what it was called. But what I was thinking of is called "wine-binfmt".

On Arch, I'm pretty sure this is installed automatically with Wine (possibly also on Debian/Ubuntu).

This lets you just open an exe file and have Wine handle it.

2.0.1 the first with the new UI

Awesome thanks for that info

Exactly!! This really needs to change.

Security is important, of course, but it's not like vodozemac is that good anyway...

(Sorry about the length, I'm rather passionate about this. The second half can be ignored)

Essentially, the key to decrypt your old messages is tied to your session. On your (presumably) first session, you can get a recovery key, which is a long hexadecimal string, and a recovery passphrase which you can decide yourself.

If you start a new session (i.e., you log in on another client), for your opd messages to be visible on the new one and your new messages on the ols one, you need to "verify" the new session. There are three ways you can do this.

1. Enter your recovery key
2. Enter your recovery passphrase
3. Interactively verify with your old session, which pops up some emojis on your old client and your new client and now you need to say they match on both.

Alternatively, if you forgot your key and your passphrase and logged out on all the other sessions, you can reset your recovery key, creating a new one and making your old messages unreadable.

(The following are just my thoughts on this) The recovery key is a PITA because most non-technical people I know don't use password managers. Even if they did, though, it's not like any password manager (afaik) offers to save your recovery key. You need to manually put it in there, separate from your account password, and manually enter it when you're connecting a new client.

The recovery passphrase somewhat mitigates this, as they could simply use their favourite "use it everywhere" password, but I don't think I need to point out the problems with that.

The emoji thing is cute and works quite well, but somehow people still get confused and justifiably vaguely irritated that they have to do it at all.

You just can't expect normal people to understand that these are important security measures, they just want to log in and be done.

That said, most people log in once on their phone, very maybe twice to also have it on their laptop and then never have to think about it again. That, however, is a problem in and of itself, because at some point they'll get a new phone, chuck the old one, try to log in and realize they have no idea what their key is.

Same, I have a discord community and it is been impossible to get people to move to Matrix or anything else. The one person who really tried ended up messing up their encryption keys and gave up.

also i would be very keen to start recommending linux to actual laymen if something like that came around! it's THE thing missing for the normie side from wine and the linux ecosystem.

It is a known issue, MR was merged 2 weeks ago, it will come back in the next version: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidclient/-/merge_requests/1795

Interesting, how does that verification process work? I've never really used matrix so I'm curious.

Its just Matrix and XMPP at the moment for all of those features, right?

F-Droid is at v2.0.2 now. The thing is that it isn't listed as a stable release (at least in Droid-ify), even though it should be.

I'm on F-Droid 1.23.2 and at the bottom of several apps I still show permissions... What version do you have? A beta?