That account is gone now, and I guess there will be more of them in the future. Keep reporting these users please.

Okay so it's been another month and they're still doing it almost instantly after comments.

I'm done giving the benefit of the doubt. Is this behavior acceptable from your instance? If so what an absolute awful position to take

Absolutely :) Enjoy!

More info about the fork here too: https://lemmy.today/post/53878421

About old, it should be in the sidebar!

Oh, sorry, you're right.

And thanks for the info on the fork!

I didnt know about alexandrite being unmaintained but good to know. I think we can still run it here for a while, maybe some users prefer it.

About old, it should be in the sidebar! And we are running one of the forks here which is maintained. :)

Rune has been consistently downvoting everything I've commented on almost immediately after the account was made along with others from others from other today domain instances. Who knows how many others they're doing this specifically too.

Maybe this https://lemmy.today/u/rune user is a bot account since there are no comments or posts, but what if its a normal user and we ban him for upvoting and downvoting things on lemmy?

Considering they appear to be a sock puppet harrasing account it would raise many questions. If admins of the instance can't look to see for sure idk what else to say other than it just makes the instance look like a safe place for the users who do this

Hi,

There are many bots on lemmy. Some are upvoting content, some are downvoting content. It would be a lot of work to try and verify which users are bots, since upvoting and downvoting content is something everyone does.

Maybe this https://lemmy.today/u/rune user is a bot account since there are no comments or posts, but what if its a normal user and we ban him for upvoting and downvoting things on lemmy?

Do you have some helper site where we can detect which users are bots?

Honestly I’m on board with this approach, only because I can envision a “net positive” version of the bot/bot-isn user behavior that I wouldn’t find terribly problematic.

There are definitely active, ongoing cases of the “net negative” type of bot/bot-ish accounts, however. For example the !shitposting@lemmy.today community is essentially a little dictatorship run by a misogynist spammer who deletes comments and bans anyone who dares to criticize his posting behavior or lack of self-disclosure as a bot-like Reddit reposter.

I’m not sure what the best approach is for people who create toxic unitary fiefdoms like this, but I can say that the preponderance of sexist content is in open violation to instance rules, and his lack of disclosure as a bot account reads as unregulated abuse of commons to many users.

IMO it’s less insidious a problem than coordinated astroturfing, marketing, or brigadier botting behaviors, but users clearly see it as abuse, otherwise they wouldn’t take the time to call it out and he wouldn’t find it necessary to ban them all.

No I think they understood the question was about bots that downvote and are okay with it

Yeah, we can only speculate. But I think there's a big distinction between liking Reddit's content and wanting to use Reddit as a platform. Im fine with content on reddit, I dont like reddit as a platform, becaues:

• They killed most third-party apps with the API changes.
• The site is increasingly hostile to browsing without logging in or using their app.
• Ads everywhere.
• They're licensing user-generated content/data to AI companies and google (my fucking data).
• Ban evasion is increasingly difficult, have to change ip all the time. reddit mobile app sends unique tracking ip, so using after ban its impossible to use reddit app
• Moderation can be incredibly arbitrary, they clearly ban to protect corporate interests
• Ultimately it's corporate-owned, so Reddit decides what speech and communities are acceptable.
• I want somewhere that can host controversial discussions, including criticism of governments, Israel, defense spending, corporations, etc., without wondering whether it conflicts with a centralized company's interests.

imo this doesnt mean reddit content is bad (actual links, memes, news, videos etc) - imo they are fine by enlarge.

That's what I want from Lemmy: the good parts of Reddit without having to use Reddit.

And yeah, ultimately individual communities should decide what they want. Normal people can disagree and still have a civil conversation. I appreciate that we can sometimes to do exactly that.

I think you meant "what about bots who downvote" but they read it as "what if people downvote the bots"

Yeah... we can only speculate with no way to ask them. I would counter with, maybe the saw all same crap they saw on Reddit (but, with fewer comments), so why move?

I suppose that at the end of the day it comes down to each community deciding what they want... if they want to require comments by posters, then they could.

Thank you for the civil discussion...

That's fair. If you hate that kind of feed, blocking it makes sense. But you're one of the people who stayed. Lemmy has had roughly 750k accounts registered, while only around 35k are active monthly. That's a massive gap.

We don't hear from the hundreds of thousands who tried Lemmy and disappeared. Maybe a lot of them opened communities, saw barely any content, and went back to Reddit.

That's who I'm trying to reach. The people who already love Lemmy don't need convincing.

It's just down to preference... I don't like scrolling through page after page of posts with no comments on them. They're just a waste of time and space. That it was/wasn't posted on reddit isn't an issue. The idea of 'farming' Reddit and cross-posting their high rated posts is the problem. I literally block every community I come across where I find that it's just a reddit feed.

But you're conflating Reddit the platform with content that happens to appear on Reddit.

I came here to get away from Reddit too. That doesn't mean an interesting article, meme, video, or discussion suddenly becomes garbage because somebody posted it on Reddit first.

And I agree that conversation is the goal. But conversation needs something to be about. Most users consume, fewer comment, and very very very few submit posts.

I'm not arguing for a million garbage posts. I'm arguing for curated, relevant posts that give otherwise quiet communities something to talk about.

If a post is bad, downvote it. If it's good and starts a conversation, why should anyone care where it was discovered?

A lot of people, myself included, came here to get away from reddit. I'm far more interested in quality posts with conversation than a million posts with no activity.

I don't understand. How would I "force content" into your feed if you blocked me? If you blocked me instead of following me, you'd never see or hear from me. Seems like a lot of your anger is your fault.

What kind of communication are you making that is going both ways? I don't understand what that means. Nothing you are saying has anything to do with OP's post. Please stay on topic.

I... UNblocked you. I wasn't going to let you force content into my feed without the communication being both ways.

Obviously you didn't block me, because you are here talking to me. LMAO

I blocked you a dozen accounts ago, but here we are.

If you dislike what I post so much, then you should block me. I appreciate you being so obsessed with me that you follow me, but OP's post is about bots. Nothing you're saying is true, and none of it has anything to do with OP's post or this discussion.

Every single upvote here is you pretending people don't despise your content

Who gives a shit if you're a bot

lol I’ve never heard of those communities and have no idea what they’re about. I think mods should be free to ban whoever they want for whatever reason they want. I support Lemmy having all kinds of communities, and mods should be able to run them however they see fit. It doesn’t bother me.

I'm not a bot, so nothing you're talking about has anything to do with the topic of OP’s post or the conversation.

You should talk to that user if you have a problem with him. What your saying has nothing to do with me or the topic of OP's post or the conversation.

People can just block users they strongly disagree with, instead of being obsessed with them. Then the problem is solved. Good luck!