This is really great

Neato! I wonder what new things, be it problems or nice touches, that people discover once the device is in their hands...

My main question is whether the battery life claims are what they say it is.

TKL is basically the same as a laptop keyboard, which up until about 10-15 years ago always had a numpad overlaid on top of the letter keys below the 7, 8, & 9 keys and activated by pressing the NumLoc key. I'm guessing manufacturers stopped including the feature due to more and more non-technical users using laptops, and confusing themselves by accidentally turning on the NumLoc (business-oriented laptops often still have them). The image I linked to above is from a page explaining it on a website related to the once-popular "For Dummies" series of books & they have an example of what happens when you type with it off vs on.

I like TKL so I don’t have to reach so far for my mouse.

...endless mod potential.

First thing is an embedded numpad like every compact keyboard should have, and every laptop used to come with.

This is great. I want one

Is anyone surprised?

Even if I wanted Windows on it, why would I pay them for it when I have a license or the MS licensing scripts?

Though I would bet nearly all are used as Linux machines, given the market segment.

I am excited for the new trackpad. Genuinely want to ditch diving board trackpads forever if this is what it claims to be.

Thus is awesome! And it looks like much of the other parts (new input cover, new display) will fit the old chassis. The new battery will require a new bottom cover though, since it takes up more physical space

Left mouse click. You end up holding the keyboard like a game controller, and left click, Escape, Back and Home are convenient to your left thumb and the trackpad, right click, volume and mute keys are convenient to the right thumb. The F keys default to their alternate functions, so if you want to hit Alt+F4 you have to pres Fn+Alt+F4.

I'm assuming you can click on the touchpad? Like a laptop one. They say it's haptic too, which is interesting (I wonder if it's interchangeable with the non-haptic one?)

I was mistaken, it's the same trackpad as the Laptop 12.

It is a left mouse button.

I haven’t used the Logitech one…what does that button do?

Wow, i was literally waiting for this. There are no quality htpc keyboards in the market rn.

I was even considering buying the keyboard and touchpad parts from framework and hacking something together myself

Are they expecting users to have to remap the ESCAPE key as a mouse button or something? A big appeal of the Logitech keyboard that they compared this to is the dedicated mouse button in the corner on the left side.

The keyboard in the image is slightly different than my FW 16's

Any info anywhere about a price?

I’m sure someone will make some kind of mod that will allow for the main board from any of the laptops and the new wireless keyboard to be a single unit. I can definitely say I would do that with my older 13 board if the option is there.

any word on price? the link says out of stock with no price.

I'm left handed so I run these upside down like Jimi Hendrix.

I suppose I can see that being more conducive to vertical scrolling?

I use KDE connect on my phones a lot and prefer to keep them oriented in portrait for that reason

I wonder if "the same keyboard and touchpad design" means that it looks the same, or if it's actually the same parts.

Blog post: https://frame.work/blog/previewing-the-framework-wireless-touchpad-keyboard

We’re excited to preview the Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard, a compact keyboard with integrated touchpad that is excellent for living room use, setting up computers, and mounting into sim rigs. As we were developing Framework Desktop and using it in these scenarios, we found that there was just one popular keyboard in this segment, and it was one that neither we nor the broader community particularly liked. We knew we could do better, and so we did! Our keyboard uses the same great-feeling mechanical key structure and touchpad architecture that we put in Framework Laptop 12. A highly power-efficient Nordic nRF54 radio and open source ZMK Firmware enable pairing four BLE and USB-A Dongle hosts along with wired USB-C connectivity. In addition to the dongle, which is storable in the back of the keyboard, we’re developing a USB-A Adapter Expansion Card that allows it to sit flush in a Framework Laptop or Desktop.

We partnered with Lite-On for this keyboard, the same manufacturer we’ve worked with now on the keyboards and touchpads we’ve shipped in every version of Framework Laptop over the last 5 years. The overall design is slim while still being rigid, and the bottom cover is translucent black, giving you a view of the internal structure and electronics. The keyboard has 1.5mm key travel and full 19mm key spacing just like our laptops. The 68.8mm x 85.6mm touchpad is a clickable Windows Precision Touchpad, meaning it supports multi-finger gestures on both Windows and Linux.

On top of this being an easy to use, convenient keyboard, we brought the Framework product philosophy throughout. We’ve released open source surface CAD to enable development of 3D-printable mounts and accessories, which is ideal for the sim rig use case. As with all of our products, the rechargeable battery is easy to replace and will be available in the Marketplace. Finally, the Control Board that contains the core electronics is a module that we’re making available separately in the Framework Marketplace to enable makers to use it as a base for their own wireless keyboard designs. We exposed 28 I/O pins from the nRF54LM20A microcontroller to allow a wide range of key matrix options.

We’re sharing this preview of Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard to give developers an early start on building around it. To grow the ecosystem faster, we’re also kicking off an initiative to provide Control Boards free to developers. You can apply to join through this form. The Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard will be available later this year, and we’ll keep you up to date as we complete development and manufacturing of it.

Interesting choice going with portrait oriented touchpad

Makes sense now. My mobile app doesn't let me see all comments while I'm replying to someone, just the one or I might have reread your original.

Nice thought about the battery! Hope they get everything sorted.