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Canada’s largest private sector union is calling on Ottawa to keep its 100 per cent surtax on electric vehicles imported from China, warning that removing it would threaten auto jobs across the country.

Unifor submitted its position to the federal government’s Section 53 review of the tariff, saying Chinese automakers enjoy unfair advantages through state subsidies, weak labour standards and carbon-intensive production.

“Lifting tariffs on China will make a bad situation far worse, if Canada becomes a dumping ground for cheap, unfairly subsidized imports,” said Unifor national president Lana Payne. “It would be nothing short of a self-inflicted wound at a time when one-third of our members at Detroit Three facilities in Canada are on layoff, with three automobile assembly plants sitting idle.”

The union said lifting the surtax now would risk undoing recent investments in vehicle assembly, battery production and critical minerals. It is asking Ottawa to extend the surtax for at least 24 months, broaden it to include EV and battery components, and reinstate federal EV rebates restricted to Canadian and North American-built vehicles. The union also wants stronger enforcement against goods made with forced labour.

Unifor said Canada should align its approach with the United States and Mexico. The U.S. has combined tariffs of 127.5 per cent on Chinese EVs and plans to restrict connected car technology by 2027, while Mexico raised its EV import tariffs to 50 per cent this year after Chinese vehicles surged to 70 per cent of its market.

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Stella Li, the executive vice president of BYD, made a startlingly frank comment that set the stage for what many now view as a drastic industry reset. Her direct statement at the Munich Motor Show that over 100 automakers need to be “pushed out” of the Chinese auto industry wasn’t just a warning. It was a measured assessment of a sector swollen by overcapacity, warped by subsidies, and increasingly choked by internal pricing battles.

Although the word “bloodbath” may sound dramatic, it works incredibly well in the context of the Chinese EV market. Even industry titans like BYD have been exposed by the race to the bottom

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Lessons concerning the fragility of scale when it is not paired with sustainable practices can be drawn from the BYD narrative from a wider social standpoint. Cheap automobiles may excite consumers, but structural inefficiency results from an unchecked competition to cut prices. Furthermore, tiny automakers, some of which are only a few years old, just do not have the cash flow buffers necessary to endure prolonged periods of low margins and growing production costs.

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BYD reported that Sept NEV sales are down 5.52% year-on-year. This marks the first year-on-year decline in BYD's monthly NEV sales since March 2024, with PHEV sales falling 25.58 percent. BYD sold 71,256 NEVs overseas in September, a year-on-year increase of 115.85 percent but a month-on-month decline of 11.83 percent.

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  • Counterfeit airbag inflators from China are being retrofitted into US vehicles.
  • 22-year-old mother killed in Florida when the airbag exploded “like a grenade.”
  • US Transportation Secretary warns repair shops installing these airbags commit crimes.
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China’s world-beating auto industry is staring into an abyss.

Its carmakers and dealers are struggling to make money and fierce competition has left scores of firms on the brink of collapse. Meanwhile, many thousands of cars are being sold at a fraction of their price, or left abandoned altogether in automotive graveyards.

Those are the findings from an extensive investigation carried out by Reuters, which reviewed thousands of car-sales listings and hundreds of government documents, state-media reports, court filings and consumer complaints, and interviewed with some 20 industry players, including dealers, buyers, analysts and manufacturing executives.

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Industry executives say making a profit is nearly impossible for almost all automakers in China, where electric vehicles start at less than $10,000 — in stark contrast to the US, where carmakers offer just a few under $35,000.

Most Chinese dealers can’t make money, either, according to an industry survey published last month, because their lots are jammed with excess inventory.

At the root of the problem are years of subsidies and other government policies aimed at making China a global automotive power and the world’s electric-vehicle leader.

China has more domestic brands making more cars than the world’s biggest car market can absorb because the industry strives to hit production targets influenced by government policy, instead of consumer demand, Reuters found.

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The seeds of the current state of China’s automotive market were planted in Beijing, where national policymakers as far back as the 1990s wanted to put China in the driver’s seat of electric vehicle production.

In 2009, Beijing launched a programme to encourage carmakers to produce EVs and consumers to buy them, backed by billions of dollars in subsidies.

By 2017, EVs hadn’t taken off. That year, Chinese government officials drafted a car-making policy blueprint that outlined a goal of producing 35 million vehicles a year by 2025 — roughly double the US annual sales record.

The push for EVs became particularly profound as an overheated property sector began to bite local governments and unsold condo blocks began weighing on the Chinese economy. The automaking blueprint became a timely alternative economic pillar for local governments that had begun to rely on land sales and real-estate tax revenue.

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Governments that bet on the right automaker saw massive gains. In 2021, for instance, the county government of Changfeng, in Anhui province, attracted auto giant BYD with super cheap land. In return, the county, whose main industry was making traditional flatbread, got a BYD mega-factory.

Over five years, BYD bought up 8.3 square kilometres of land in Changfeng at an average price 40% below that paid by other buyers, Reuters determined from property-sales filings published by China’s government. BYD didn’t address questions about the arrangement and other matters raised in this report. A person reached by phone at Changfeng county’s propaganda office said some of the reporting was inaccurate and declined to elaborate.

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Two Communist Party officials in Changfeng tied to the BYD project, Fan Shaobin and Li Mingshan, received promotions to higher levels of government in 2024, notices published by the party’s Anhui Provincial Committee show.

Following a similar playbook. smartphone maker Xiaomi began buying land in Beijing’s Yizhuang district in 2022 for an EV factory. By 2024 it had purchased more than 206 soccer fields’ worth at an average price 22% below the rate others paid for industrial land, land-sales filings show. The city of Beijing required the plant to generate a minimum annual revenue of 47 billion yuan, about $6.6 billion, at full production, according to the filings.

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While some governments won big, these policies multiplied overcapacity across the country, resulting in a price war that has now raged on for three years.

Concerns around price cuts have been such that in June, after BYD announced brutal new price cuts, the chief of Great Wall Motors, one of China’s oldest carmakers made a series of rare public statements alleging price wars were destroying the bottom lines of car companies and their suppliers, while also creating a mountain of debt.

“The EV industry’s Evergrande is already here,” Wei Jianjun said referring to China’s once-largest property developer that went belly-up in 2022 due to its more than $300 billion worth of debt. Automakers such as Geely and GAC Aion backed up Wei.

The only escape would involve letting many automakers fail, some analysts say. But many Chinese officials have resisted that tough-love path, which industry analysts say would risk mass layoffs and falling consumer spending.

That leaves automakers and local governments locked in an increasing downward spiral, said Yuhan Zhang, principal economist at The Conference Board’s China Center, a research group.

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Grey markets and TikTok livestreams

The market conditions so created have left automakers with few options to deal with rising inventories. Some cars end up in grey markets, where cars can end up being sold at as much as a quarter of their listing prices.

In one showroom on the outskirts of Chengdu, [...] locally made Audis being sold at 50% off. Similarly, a seven-seater SUV from China’s FAW is about $22,300, was on sale for more than 60% below its sticker price.

The deals were being offered by a company called Zcar, which said it buys in bulk from automakers and dealerships.

Zhou Yan, Zcar’s marketing director, told Reuters it can sell at deep discounts because it buys some vehicles directly from automakers in batches.

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In recent months, though, Chinese authorities have started to sound alarm bells on the auto price wars, saying the competition was irrational and unsustainable. This summer, President Xi Jinping rebuked provincial officials, questioning why every province was racing to invest in a handful of technologies such as EVs and artificial intelligence.

The brewing crisis has larger implications for China’s economy, where the auto industry and related services comprise about one-tenth of gross domestic product.

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With losses mounting for so many carmakers, there is growing talk among some industry analysts of a traumatic shakeout.

Still, three industry figures and two analysts told Reuters an abrupt shock is unlikely: Consolidation could take years, and local governments would probably support flailing automakers, containing the fallout.

“The problem of excess capacity in China is a systemic problem,” Michael Pettis, a senior fellow at Carnegie China research centre, said.

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***Viral video shows experimental battery ejection tech, but critics question its safety in real-world crashes ***

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EV fires, notoriously difficult to extinguish once they start, remain one of the toughest challenges for carmakers. Engineers continue racing to design battery packs resilient enough to survive crashes without igniting. In China, however, a very different approach has been showcased: a high-speed ejection system that literally launches the pack away like a projectile from the vehicle during an emergency.

If that sounds less like a safety breakthrough and more like and accident waiting to happen, you’re getting the idea. And yes, it really is that stupid.

Battery Launcher

The unusual demonstration was captured in a video that went viral on Chinese social media. The clip shows a large battery module violently shooting out of the side of an SUV before smoke appears. Safety workers quickly smothered the pack with a special blanket after it landed in a designated area with pillows.

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Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD's quarterly profit fell for the first time in more than three years, as its expansion hit a speed bump amid a government campaign against price wars.

Net profit at the world's biggest EV producer totalled 6.4 billion yuan ($894.74m) in the second quarter, it said today, down 29.9% from a year earlier, after rising 100.4% in the first quarter.

Revenue increased 14% to 200.9 billion yuan in the three months to June 30.

First-half profit was up 13.8% on revenue up 23.3%.

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In BYD's domestic market, Chinese consumer complaints show widespread padding of car sales.

A tactic used by Chinese automakers and dealers to inflate car sales has grown increasingly common in recent years in response to a bruising price war in the world's largest auto market, a Reuters analysis of consumer complaints has found.

Earlier this month, Reuters reported EV brands Neta and Zeekr had arranged for cars to be insured before buyers purchased them, a scheme that effectively inflates sales numbers and gives the appearance the companies were hitting periodic targets.

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The reasons for the ultra-low prices of Chinese electric cars are complex. They are not limited to cheaper labor or generous state subsidies that violate the rules of fair competition. Often the cost of products is also reduced by ignoring labor standards, using forced labor, as well as monopoly control over key components, especially rare earth metals. China, as the largest supplier of these strategically important resources, is consciously using them as a geopolitical tool of influence.

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The economic aspect is only part of the problem. Concerns about security, data privacy and technological sovereignty are growing. Modern electric cars are equipped with dozens of sensors, are constantly connected to the Internet and have functions for remote software updates, transmission of telemetry or even control of certain vehicle functions in real time.

In the case of Chinese electric cars, these capabilities become potential tools for espionage, collection of sensitive data or, in extreme cases, remote sabotage. American intelligence agencies and European cybersecurity experts have repeatedly warned about the possibility of collecting personal information through Chinese-made “smart” cars, including GPS routes, camera and microphone recordings, user preferences, mobile device connections and even access to home Wi-Fi networks.

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The real shock comes from the fact that some Chinese electric cars are capable of receiving commands directly from servers located in China. This means that in the event of political tension or a hybrid attack, the car could theoretically be stopped or even cause an accident by changing its behavior. In a worst-case scenario, these cars could become remotely controlled weapons - without any input from the driver.

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Behind the cheapness of such cars are not only marketing and technology, but also a whole complex of risks - from ethical to strategic. Before buying the next “affordable” electric car, every consumer must ask themselves the question: am I willing to pay with my own safety for this “bargain” purchase?

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  • BYD has reportedly sued 37 influencers in China, claiming they have made defamatory comments.
  • The manufacturer has a News Anti-Fraud department where people can send tips about possible defamation and get rewards.
  • Companies suing influencers for potentially damaging their image is far more common in China than it is in the West.

The relationship between automakers and the people who create content with their vehicles can sometimes be tense. However, it seldom results in legal action taken against them, and requests to change or remove content are usually about as extreme as it gets.

But not if you’re covering the world’s fastest-growing automaker over the last few years, BYD, which is reportedly taking 37 influencers to court over things they said that it deems defamatory.

CarNewsChina says BYD has also added 126 content creators to an internal watch list, and they will be monitored in the future, potentially also facing legal action from the automaker if they say something that the company sees as damaging to its image. The carmaker created a “News Anti-Fraud Office” a few years ago and it’s encouraging people to send tips about potentially damaging content.

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To encourage tip-offs about potential smear campaigns, BYD is offering substantial bonuses—50,000 to 5 million yuan ($6,900 to $690,000)—for credible leads. The source lists several examples of why BYD sued influencers. In one instance, a person accused the company of manipulating content creators to say negative things about rival brands.

The court concluded that the influencer was required to make a public apology and pay a fine of 100,000 yuan (around $13,800). Another influencer was fined after making claims that BYD was financially unstable and on the verge of bankruptcy.

All of these fines pale in comparison to the August 2023 lawsuit launched by Nissan Dongfeng against an influencer who had posted over 50 videos on TikTok denigrating the automaker’s vehicles. He was asked to pay 5 million yuan in reparations to the manufacturer. In 2022, Tesla also took a Chinese influencer to court, demanding 5 million yuan in reparations, but eventually settled for a lot less.

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Carmakers and salespeople in Brazil are up in arms at the arrival of a giant cargo vessel carrying thousands of cheap Chinese electric vehicles.

The world’s largest car-carrying ship – one of a number deployed by BYD, China’s biggest carmaker – is said to carry the equivalent of 20 football fields of vehicles. It finished its maiden journey to dock at Brazil’s Itajai port late last month. But not everyone is happy about its arrival.

BYD, China’s top producer of EVs and plug-in hybrids, is offering Brazilian car shoppers relatively low-priced options in a market where the green-car movement is still in its infancy. But Brazilian auto-industry officials and labour leaders fear the vast influx of cars from BYD and other Chinese carmakers will set back domestic auto production and hurt jobs.

Calls for immediate 35% tariffs after flood of EVs

The late-May shipment was the fourth of the Chinese carmaker’s ships to dock in Brazil this year, totalling around 22,000 vehicles, according to Reuters calculations.

BYD, the world’s top producer of electric and plug-in hybrid cars, is the largest among several Chinese brands targeting Brazil for growth. China-built vehicle imports are expected to grow nearly 40% this year, to about 200,000, according to Brazil’s main auto association. That would account for roughly 8% of total light-vehicle registrations.

Industry and labour groups say China is taking advantage of Brazil’s temporarily low tariff barriers to ramp up its exports rather than investing to build Brazilian factories and create jobs.

They are lobbying Brazil’s government to accelerate by a year a plan to increase Brazil’s tariff on all EV imports to 35% from 10%, rather than gradually phasing in higher levies.

“Countries around the world started closing their doors to the Chinese, but Brazil didn’t,” said Aroaldo da Silva, a Mercedes-Benz production worker and president of IndustriALL Brasil, a confederation of unions across six industrial sectors. “China made use of that.”

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For all the Chinese government’s efforts to prevent price cuts by market leader BYD Co. from turning into a vicious spiral, analysts say a combination of weaker demand and extreme overcapacity will slice into profits at the strongest brands and force feebler competitors to fold. Even after the number of EV makers started shrinking for the first time last year, the [Chinese] industry is still using less than half its production capacity.

Chinese authorities are trying to minimize the fallout, chiding the sector for “rat race competition” and summoning heads of major brands to Beijing last week. Yet previous attempts to intervene have had little success. For the short term at least, investors are betting few automakers will escape unscathed: BYD, arguably the biggest winner from industry consolidation, has lost $21.5 billion in market value since its shares peaked in late May.

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Auto CEOs were told last week they must “self-regulate” and shouldn’t sell cars below cost or offer unreasonable price cuts, according to people familiar with the matter. The issue of zero-mileage cars also came up — where vehicles with no distance on their odometers are sold by dealers into the second-hand market, seen widely as a way for automakers to artificially inflate sales and clear inventory.

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The pricing turmoil is also unfolding against a backdrop of significant overcapacity. The average production utilization rate in China’s automotive industry was mere 49.5% in 2024, data compiled by Shanghai-based Gasgoo Automotive Research Institute show.

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The Chinese electric vehicle (EV) boom has turned into a dramatic shakeout with 400 Chinese EV companies ceasing operations between 2018 – 2025 [...] China’s EV startup explosion was fuelled by generous subsidies, tax breaks, and easy access to local production licenses between 2015 and 2019. According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), this led to an overcrowded market of more than 500 ventures, many lacking core technology, supply chains, or scale.

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[Chinese EV manufacturer] BYD is facing growing challenges from an intensifying price war and a change in supplier payment regulations in China, raising market concerns about the company’s financial stability.

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BYD executive vice president Stella Li told Bloomberg in an interview on June 12 that the “very extreme, tough competition” in the Chinese EV market is unsustainable.

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Last October, the European Union imposed tariffs ranging from 17% to 35.3% on Chinese EVs (BYD: 17%, Geely: 18.8%, SAIC and others: 35.3%). China suggested setting minimum prices for the EVs it ships to the EU. Both sides are still negotiating the matter.

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