We haven't had nearly enough magic in superhero movies, so I'm all for it. Plus more magic means more likely Zatanna and/or Doctor Fate in the long run. Or Etrigan!

So yes, more modern day magic.

I think it integrates fine, but there isn't anything that really connects them. Clayface the film is an origin story and by the end of the film he's definitely Clayface the villain. Clayface in Creature Commandos doesn't say or do a lot (as the Clayface persona), and we know so little about his motivation, so he is easily the same character. Both versions show a weakness to electricity, but generally any Clayface should have that weakness, but it is a connection.

In terms of a Batman reference, to pull a quote from the director,

"You're in a city called Gotham. So I guess you feel the shadow of the Bat inherently," Watkins said. "Because of the nature of where you are."

I felt the corruption of Gotham in the film. I can see a city that needs a hero. Is that Batman's shadow? I don't think so.

Plus Creature Commandos got a Batman cameo. Clayface could have had a reference. "Wayne Enterprises trying to help blah blah blah" would have been enough.

Also how does this movie “integrate” (for lack of a better word) with the clayface from Creature Commandos?

In general I agree with the decision to make it a standalone film in the DCU. The film wouldn’t benefit from a Superman cameo and a Batman reference would seem like a setup to nothing.

I first thought they were like matchbox cars and wasn't sure how it could be $35 in 1976. Took me a min to realize they're kid sized.

That was quick, about two months to film and announced just shortly before that. Post-production might take a little while but love to see the (seemingly) quick turn around.

Looking forward to see this, it'll be something different for sure.

Tbh I'm over her playing Harley, too.

It must be tiring for her indeed

Same for Supercavill.

Those two had so much potential. They got handed meh-tier writing and directing at a time when Marvel was already producing superhero movies hand over fist. The rawest of deals in terms of playing those two characters IMO. Not that the new Superman has it that much better in terms of superhero movie saturation.

OMG, Ben, as a grey-haired elderly Bruce, would be SO awesome berating Terry while also coaching him.

Maybe it’s nostalgia for Beyond but I like an old, grumpy bat.

I wish Batfleck had better writing and a better director. Maybe Ben would have enjoyed the role more then. He really was a great older Batman.

Hate me all day but I always wanted more Batfleck.

Why couldn't it be Battinson? I feel like a big part of the draw of a Batman/Superman story is that they're so different from each other, and Battinson is about as far away from Corenswet Superman as you can get personality-wise.

The headline and thread title seems to be a spoiler as well.

The whole article is a spoiler, and says so at the top, but just in case,

Why create a DC Univers if you want to tell individual stories? That's fucking stupid.

I'm not even saying everything has to be entirely disconnected. Have little crossovers, have shared minor characters, settings, and common events explored from different perspectives. Hell, have the occasional teamup or "let's you and him fight" movie.

I'm just saying it doesn't all have to be contributing and snowballing into higher and higher stakes mega-events. There's plenty of room for the smaller stories, and I think that kind of a shared universe is less exhausting to get into.

I wasn't familiar with Resurrection Man, but that's definitely someone who could have a TV series and every season could be a new gimmick/power (or even a new actor).

I'm reminded of "Doom Patrol" which ran alongside the old DCEU but was completely disconnected.

I guess technically we could say that the Matt Reeves Batman is also doing that.

But if everything is disconnected, is that a shared universe? And if the answer is no shared universe, that's fine too, but I think we should be setting those expectations.

I think this is in response to the "homework problem" you often see people complain about for the MCU. I'm not convinced it's a real problem, apart from Wanda's storyline, but perhaps behind the scenes it causes more issues.

It'll be interesting to see how some non-Gunn lead stories shake out in the coming years. "Man of Tomorrow" will reportedly have both Guy Gardner and Jon Stewart in it. How will that affect a future season of Lanterns?

Also just the practicality of it all. Is Tom Rhys Harries (Clayface actor) just supposed to chill until his character is needed again? I guess I'm fine if it's a one off. And as we saw in the MCU some actors will just stick around for a while and ultimately do very little (e.g. Maria Hill).

I don't disagree, but then keep doing more stories with the less-connected, less-popular characters. I guess that's what they're doing with Clayface, I just don't care about Clayface. I've been wanting a Resurrection Man movie for years, though. It could be a great "The Crow"-style revenge rampage.

I'd rather just check out of common culture than voluntarily give Ellisons money

This shit really doesn't mean anything with how crazy prices are...

It should be reported as ticket sales, but that would kill the illusion for stock holders.

Wrong one, dammit.

And the popcorn coming in at 90+%. It almost always starts high, but that's higher than usual.

Not that it's a high bar but among superhero villain films it's one of the best.

He actually slammed the paddle into his own leg/ankle when he smashed it to pieces, and that's why he's walking funny to his car in that scene. He was supposed to hit the curb I think, but missed and destroyed his own ankle along with the paddle.