Kinda funny if this is what happens 🤣

The parallel for the candidate is, skip a bunch of opportunities to focus on the one you like the most then get rejected.

Perceived leverage. Perception of value... Everybody acting as they are a king but relative in the hierarchy we are all slaves pushed and pulled by external forces. It seems like getting a job is like buying a car. It's a song and dance. They take forever on purpose. They're really trying to like torture you subliminally. And physically. These are all just policies from the top and they literally just want to demoralize you. So you'll be happy for crumbs. It's a web of nonsense just to maintain the hierarchy. We are literally in a standstill, in my opinion, when it comes to human progress. I mean, it seems they're getting better at killing poor people in other countries. But then again, even that they can be critiqued over due to some of their recent failures, in which I celebrate.. I think just the modern day yankee capitalist is maybe just dumb. They have their secret plans, but once the veil is removed, it's just gonna be a sad droopy dick. This AI nonsense is almost over. Just a silly-ass parlor trick that's really just going to be used for the surveillance state. What a fucking wretched world.

They rejected the other candidates and now have nobody, so they are back at square one. It’s no worse for them as it would be for a person, but they have systematised it and are used to the upper hand. In the case of rejection, they lose their system and the upper hand.

Human Resources is not your friend. They are there to serve and protect the company. The fact that we all just accept that humans are nothing more than a resource to them, to the point that they just admit it outright, is just depressing.

"I thus have no compelling reason to continue interacting with you" ... I bid them farewell ... I have never gotten a follow-up after that

It's great that you respond like this because then the hiring manager can show their boss this and both be happy they dodged a fedora bullet

They got pissed that you weren’t as desperate as they thought you were when they rejected everyone else in favor of you, and wanted more info to weed people like you out earlier in the future. Or to pressure you into changing your mind; that would suit their desires equally well, being pressure-able or desperate are basically the same for employers.

At least that’s my assumption. I’ve had similar experiences turning jobs down that I just didn’t want after talking to several people, or hearing more about the job, and they all get upset about it. But they certainly won’t be changing anything, so it’s not like there’s a valid reason to demand an explanation.

Whenever that happens, I just tell them “I’ve explained myself sufficiently, and I don’t work for nor do business with your company. I thus have no compelling reason to continue interacting with you, particularly for something you want me to give you that comes at a time and effort cost to me.” I bid them farewell, and am prepared to block/ignore them if they send me anything else. I chose the phrasing to be direct, and let them know it was a wildly inappropriate ask, while still being reasonably professional. I have never gotten a follow-up after that.

Employment is an abusive relationship

It will take a lot of wealth redistribution before I can feel sympathy for any employer again

They are selfish assholes. I have no other explanation but I believe I'm right.

I have a CS degree, they don't teach you anywhere near what is appropriate for the secops world. College is a basis but it cannot teach you experience.

I want to get into ethical hacking and penetrating. Cuz I’ve always thought that is cool and fun. And to help find ways to stop or prevent things like ransomeware.

Ik CS is more programming oriented and I already have regrets in life and wouldn’t want to feel like I’m making the wrong choices and feel I wasted my time on this degree.

I believe cybersecurity entails testing vulnerabilities and applying fixes and helping to make systems much more secure

I have 6 years IT experience (nothing network related) more just fixing hardware and removing viruses.

But my current role is just deploying software to agencies

He has a computer science degree. Those should all be starter certs for him.

CISSP is not a starter cert...

CEH is also not really a starter cert, it's like mid weight on the knowledge scale

S+ is a starter cert.

You could get a few certs to see if you like it. Security+, CISSP, and Certified Ethical Hacker might be some good starter certs.

Which part of cyber security entices you? Because it's a large field and it's like saying you want to be a programmer.

Red Teaming
Offensive security by deliberately picking at something till it breaks and you get shell.

Blue Teaming
Making sure things are patched and up to date, reviewing Nessus or Qualis(?) scan reports and resolving the findings.

Those are 2 examples.

and if it would be a waste of my bachelros in C.S.

I would get past any notion that something is going to “taint” this achievement.

In your own words - what do you believe a job in cybersecurity entails?

In your current role - in what ways have you interacted with software, cloud or a server’s security?