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Enough people have given up cash that it seems some widespread blindness/out-of-touchness on the assault on cash. This thread is collect scenarios of cash payers being hit with fees and other disadvantages as the war on cash moves ahead.

  • Internet service: the only way to get an Internet subscription that is paid directly in cash is to buy a prepaid GSM then buy top-ups from press shops, and use the phone credit to buy Internet bundles that cost around €15 for 4gb. Subscribing to a proper ISP gets the lowest price but requires paying by bank transfer. And to do that, you have to pay a fee to a 3rd-party service that takes cash and makes a transfer.
  • GSM service: same problem as Internet svc. Prepaid costs more. Postpaid incurrs fees by 3rd parties.
  • rail transport: online tickets are the cheapest and none of the payment methods are cash-compatible. E.g. PaySafe cards are not accepted. OTC service accepts cash but has extortionate fees. E.g. a fee of €12 added to a ticket that costs €10. Or you can be a victim of dynamic pricing, and pay cash after boarding, when prices are the highest.
  • buses (long-haul): Dynamic pricing fucks over cash payers. You can pay online but only using a bank-dependant variety of payment instruments. You can pay cash to the driver, but only just before departure, when the price is 4× higher than the starting price.
  • buses (public transport): some bus companies outright give no cash option. Some charge 50¢ more to cash payers.
  • basic utilities: cash refused. Must use a 3rd party transfer service to pay cash, for a fee.

Any other situations where paying cash has a penalty?

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When you send or receive mony electronically, the money is in limbo for a period of time. The money leaves the payer’s account and sits in the bank’s own account where the bank earns interest. After some time, the money eventually finally moves into the recipient’s account. That limbo time is quite profitable for the bank. Banks maximise that limbo time to the full legal extent.

So when you send or receive money electronically, you show your love for the bank and the bank loves your patronage. Don’t like banks? Stop being lazy and go back to paper cheques. And of course it’s better to cash them rather than deposit them.

Paper cheques keep the money in the posession of the payer up until the cheque is presented. At that moment, cash is paid to the recipient. There is no profitable limbo time in this case.

This came up in this comment but thought it should have a separate thread. We are losing our right to autonomy (paper cheques) because addiction to every slight bit of convenience is taking a toll.

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Crossposted from https://fedia.io/m/humanrights@crazypeople.online/t/4433054

Belgium plans to do away with paper cheques. Apparently no one is fighting this. The eagerness to do away with paper cheques can only be attributed to addiction to convenience without regard to the consequences.

Once paper cheques are gone, there will be no way to survive without banks. Even if you walk away from your job and go on social aid, the social aid has no way to reach you without a bank account. Paper cheques are the sole means having personal autonomy from banks.

Some pensioners still receive their pension payment as a paper cheque, which they can cash without having a bank account. Belgium is taking this away.

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Train operators are making the same excuse that state and local govs are -- that cash payers cost them money. Yet kiosks exist. The city of Concord shows that machines can do the cash collection job. No need to hire a human -- although we could also talk about the detriment of elminating jobs. But either way, they have no excuse for infringing on our human right to autonomy (to be free from forced-banking).

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For those who give a shit about privacy, consider the linked past post. The ATM reads the serial numbers of banknotes as it’s dispensed and later used to track your habits.

So to mitigate the threat of unwarranted mass surveillance, it’s a good idea to put your ATM withdrawals in an envelope with the transaction date. Then let it sit in your safe for 6—12 months so the tracking data becomes stale before you actually use it. A good length of time suggests the banknotes went through many hands before they are back on the radar.

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WTF Bob Dylan? A friend who is offline is blocked from buying tickets to Bob Dylan in Antwerp, Belgium. The concert is effectively exclusively for online people. Most likely cash payers must fuck off.

It’s exactly the kind of shit Bob Dylan should be bitching about in his songs. WTF, Bob Dylan?

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If Trump’s revolting face goes on a banknote, he will leave a stain on the country that cannot be concealed. It will persist long after the rein of his regime. Congess will use their precious time to decide whether a law should be overturned in order to stoke Trump’s ego and infuriate pro-humanity people. Currently the law does not allow living people to be printed on banknotes. The law also does not allow for a denomination of $250, so republicans will argue that an act of Congress is needed anyway.

It’s quite sickening because when Trump’s term ends at least half the country wants him out of sight and out of mind.

They are calling this a “commemorative” banknote. Does that mean fewer of them?

Note to shop owners: you will legally be able to refuse the banknote if it’s for a point of sale. But not if it’s used to pay a debt.

I would fucking love it if this issue would motivate dems to the polls this year to try to vote republicans out of Congress just to stop Trump’s face becoming a permanent stain on USD money.

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Although the article is about an e-voting fuckup, there's a bit at the bottom that mentions that one of the things being voted on is about cash:

"Two of Sunday's referendum questions focused on the availability of cash. Nearly three-quarters of voters approved a government proposal to enshrine the mandate of the Swiss National Bank to supply physical cash and stick with the Swiss franc in the country's constitution, while a similar proposal backed by campaigners was narrowly rejected.

This is despite Switzerland having one of the lowest levels of cash use in Europe with just 30 percent of physical transactions in 2024 involving notes or coins."

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And I suppose the same question can be asked of the US and EU, who also impose a surcharge on inbound travelers who are subject to travel authorisations.

(yes, there is a bus from London to New York if anyone is wondering; and indeed there would potentially be many travel authorisations to pay for along that route depending on how many governments are doing this)

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(crossposted to !brussels) A decent bank has their own (insourced) ATMs. This protects consumers from lots of shenanigans, like:

centralised surveillance centralised power ATMs that eat your card because its shitty AI decided something there is an irregularity (such as wrong PIN entered or too much cash was requested in relation to an ever decreasing nannied threshold allowance) denial of service based on criteria set by the cartel (not by your bank) small banknotes (≤€50) daily and weekly withdrawal limits (if there is only one ATM network, that network’s limit is imposed on you without recourse using competing ATM networks) reduced services (e.g. no balance inquiry; no deposits)

AFAIK, the only banks good enough to have their own ATM are AXA (Crelan), Attijariwafa and maybe Chabba? Related: The Dutch ATM shit-show spreads to Belgium (update) also related: Why you might want to avoid banking at BNP Parabas, bPost, Ing, Belfius, Aion/UniCredit

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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/31246483

Too many people are okay with KYC over-achieving banks collecting excessive amounts of data on people. “Know Your Customer” sounds innocuous. People have taken the bait. They will give in to whatever information a bank demands.

It would be a great feat to give the population the wisdom and pro-humanity culture they are lacking. Just like with WWII, it was hard to smear Hitler amid the braindead/brainwashed masses. But subtle language and symbolic augmentations can have some effect. Language is important. And it’s important to ensure language prioritises humanity above the machine.

Though I have no idea where we can replace KYC with UYC because the language is almost wholly spoken by our adversaries.

AML is another shitty phrase that deceives people into believing it’s a force of good. As forced-banking gets a stranglehold on us, we are losing our human rights: self-determination, autonomy, consumer rights.

I must admit ASDA (anti-self-determination and autonomy) is not spot on either, because it’s not obvious from the phrase that it’s a replacement for AML. But it’s a start.

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According to the linked leaflet, the EU’s payment services directive ensures that “You can no longer be charged extra costs by a merchant when you pay using a card issued in the EU.” But they neglect to extend reciprocity to cash payers.

Incidentally, this exacerbates adversely discriminatory treatment of Americans who face uniquely poor treatment by banks. Cash is the sole notable refuge from shitty banks.

Upcharging cash payers violates human rights. This is not only attributed to banks discriminating on the basis of nationality. We have a human right to:

  • self-determinism
  • autonomy
  • consumer protection
  • privacy

Penalising cash payers is an assault on any consumer who exercises their self-deterministic right to live autonomous and independent from banks.

No consumer protection is more important than the right to opt out of a transaction. It’s the only consumer protection that one can give themself without relying on others. Surcharging consumers who opt out of banking is an attack on that option. It puts a price on consumer protection.

Banking inherently entails abuse of privacy. The digital footprint is huge and undermins data minimisation rights.

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(crossposted from !exclusive_public_resources) The Council of State is a court that handles appeals, often to challenge non-court decisions like that of a public enforcement body. E.g. you report to SPF Mobilité that an airline or rail operator did not compensate you for a delay or cancellation, and they give you a flippant rejection, the Council of State is your recourse. The Council of State will not open a case unless you pay a few hundred euros to their bank account. They do not accept cash. So you might think: I’ll just hire a lawyer with cash and the lawyer will open the case. Nope. Belgian lawyers are prohibited from accepting cash.

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There are over 7000 unbanked pensioners & people on disability. These people are important to everyone retaining the freedom to be unbanked -- to not be forced into that shitty marketplace. Once they are eliminated, banks will have no competitive pressure to offer good service. Normally they get paid by postal orders which can then be cashed. The postal orders are being replaced by cheques, which apparently includes a new requirement that they personally travel to the bank or post office to cash it. Some of them will be screwed by their lack of mobility unless they can handle managing a bank account. If they resist the bank account, they apparently don’t simply get a cheque instead. They must explain why they cannot open a bank account. What if they refuse on moral grounds? Will that be an acceptable excuse? This is the 16th paragraph translated to English:

** Even the circular check would not be guaranteed for people with disabilities? ** As with pensioners without a bank account, the payment of disability benefits to persons who do not have a personal account number should be made automatically by circular cheque. However, everything is not so simple, as we are explained on the side of the National Superior Council of Persons with Disabilities (CSNPH). "There is the possibility of the circular cheque, but the person must motivate the fact that she still requests a circular cheque and she must explain why she cannot open a bank account," says Gisèle Marlière, the President of the Council, based on the information she received from the Directorate General People with Disabilities. Who's gonna evaluate? What criteria? These are as many questions as we ask ourselves on the CSNPH side. And worrying about a "discreationary" process. The CSNPH Chair is also surprised at the difference in treatment compared to pensioners without bank account.

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As a cop drives down the road right next to you, matching your speed, this is what happens:

  • You want to look over to see if he is looking at you. But if you do, then that in itself raises suspicion and also brings a legal risk that you are seen to have taken your eyes off the road. So you turn your head just enough to get their eyes in your periphery but hope you are regarded as looking at street signs.
  • If your seatbelt is off, you need to get it on but without making any noticeable movement to that effect. So at a sloth pace you very subtly get your left arm looped in and as a separate slow waisteline movement get the buckle in place.
  • If you’re over the limit, you obviously can’t just take your foot off the gas because the dramatic speed change is too noticeable. So you let off the gas ever so slowly so that the cop possibly questions whether he was not keeping his own throttle perfectly still.
  • You wonder about trivial laws.. must both hands be on the steering wheel? You get both hands on just to give the appearance of perfect Mr Rogers compliance.
  • If you get pulled over while being black, you follow Chris Rock’s procedure.. you don’t just pop open the glove box at a normal pace because fast movements get you shot. Every movement is slow and announced.

By comparison, banks have become like cops now because a flood of anti-human rights law under the guise of KYC/AML has converted banks into cops. So:

  1. You don’t just pop into your bank and ask for cash. Some banks alert the police simply for asking for too much. And the definition of “too much” is often secret and also secretly dropping. It’s much less than you expect. It’s like making a fast reach for the glove box while being black in a US red state.
  2. Read your bank’s most recent ToS. Make sure you know how much cash you’re even allowed to pull out. In much of Europe, asking for €3k is eyebrow-raising. Some banks have reached a level of nannying that high cash withdrawal fees trigger when you pull out more than $/€ 300 in a month.
  3. Also about making fast moves: make an appointment to withdraw cash and tell them in advance how much you will take. Some banks keep their vault shut and hostility emerges if they think you expect them to open the vault spontaneously. They need to know how much to take out in the morning before your withdrawal.
  4. If you gamble at casinos, you’re best off finding the ATM limit and then making routine max withdrawals as an on-going habit. Don’t deviate because the AI algos get trigger happy with suspicion. You may find that you’re fucked. If your bank has a 300/month limit and you want to gamble with 10k, it will take you 3 years(!) of ATM withdrawals to reach that bankroll. OTOH, if you think you can just walk into the bank and ask for 10k, they will interrogate in the least.
  5. Cash deposits are a problem too. A (non-criminal) European simply tried to deposit €50 cash he received as a gift and was interrogated about the source of it. The bank did not want the burden of the paper trail so they talked him out of making the deposit.
  6. ATM transactions now have AI bots looking to freeze your acct or eat your card.

Regarding point ⑥:

I tried to make a foreign currency withdrawal and got the currency conversion backwards so I slightly exceeded a limit. Of course the ATMs are as vague as possible about the problem (in fact, they outright lie) because every failure/refusal implies a crime to them and they don’t want to inform a criminal. So I retried the same amount at different machines. The AI bot decided it was suspicious enough to try different ATMs to freeze the account. By the time I realised I got the conversion wrong and asked for too much, I was already fucked by the lockout.

Some banks will force you into an alarming fraud interview over the phone and try to coerce you to say you don’t recognise a transaction or figure. If they succeed, you’re fucked more than a freeze because they cancel the card and you have to wait for a new card with new number to arrive at your home (while you are overseas!).

In my case, the banker misread a transaction and asked “did you make a 6k purchase yesterday?” Me: “hell no”.. Then we have to treat this as fraud. But in reality that so-called purchase was actually just an ATM asking for the balance or limit or something that did not result in a movement. So the banker did not understand their own UI.

Watch out for ATMs that are designed to suck your card completely into the ATM, and avoid them. The reason for that design is so that if the stupid-ass AI bot decides it thinks there may be fraud (b/c e.g. you get your PIN wrong), it can confiscate your card without even giving a specific reason and without informing you of that risk before using the ATM. This is comparable to a cop seizing your cash based arbitrarily on unjustified suspicion (e.g. carrying cash in itself is becoming “suspicious”). It is impossible to get your card back from the ATM. You can only ask your card issuer for another card and they have a right to charge you a fee for that.

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(crossposted from !brussels) The only good ATM was operated by BNP Parabas in the center near De Brouckere. It was indoors, which usually implies bigger notes and higher amounts. The bank branch remained but they took away the ATMs. WTF. ATMs are important for tourism so if BNP is going to eliminate that ATM location, is it fair to assume BNP has removed all their ATMs? We don’t want to be like the Dutch, who have created a monopolistic consortium shitshow with a single dominant ATM operator. If that one ATM network rejects your card or gives you troubles, you’re essentially fucked unless you’re in a city like Amsterdam which still has a few scarce independantly operarted ATMs. Anyone know of an ATM that dispenses €100 notes? And preferrably not the “CASH”-branded machines. I avoid those so as not to support growth toward a monopoly. (update) This does not exactly answer my question but interesting anyway to know that there is an open data dataset on ATMs in brussels: https://opendata.brussels.be/explore/dataset/bruxelles_distributeurs_bancaires/information/?sort=postalcode We can easily watch this list shrink over time. Last update was 2024 so not the best resource. (update 2) Indeed BNP Parabas has removed all their ATM machines and joined the Bancontact/CASH consortium, which centralises power over consumers and centralises surveillance.

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The linked fedi comment is a bit alarming. In a GDPR region, a prospective mortgage borrower was denied a home loan because the bank knew how much he spent on wine.

The post gets errors (as if it were censored?), but I can reach it only within a slrpnk.net cache of the comment. I will quote it here in case others also cannot reach the comment:

Anonymity is very important.

Here's a example why, that recently happened to a workmate:

He applied for a mortgage to buy a house. The application was denied 3 times, despite his having been employed at the same place for 20 years, paid all his bills on time and never received so much as a parking ticket. Finally, after insisting heavily and threatening to sue, his bank provided the reason why: his purchasing habits included too much alcohol.

Or said another way: the bank watched what he purchased when doing his groceries for years and quietly classified him as a wino and potential deadbeat.

I can tell you, when I do my groceries, and back when I still smoked, I never paid for alcohol or tobacco with anything other than cash, for that very reason. The only things I pay for with plastic paint the portrait of a boring working stiff with no habits out of the ordinary. For the rest, it's cash-only.

And if you want another example of why anonymity is important: a few years ago, I sought the help of an underground surgeon to perform a certain type of surgery on me that my stupid doctors here refused to perform, despite my quality of life going to shit (it's a long story...)

Guess what: underground surgeons don't take credit cards. The man changed my life for the better but I certainly don't want my local health insurance to know about it. Was it illegal? Hell yes. Was it justified? Hell yes. Legal and right are two different things.

And similarly, I expected many women post Roe v. Wade would like to have the opportunity to get an abortion out of state anonymously without going to jail.

That's why anonymous payments are essential: they are the last rampart between you and unjust laws and prejudice.

This story should really get some serious press. I tried searching the enshitified web for stories similar to this and got no hits. WTF.

How are banks getting such detail as to know what people are buying?

My expectation: the bank should only know the total amount of the grocery store transaction, not an itemised list of what someone buys. WTF is going on here? It’s a data minimisation failure on the part of the grocery store and also on the part of the bank who over-collected data. And most importantly, the payment processor. What possible grounds does the payment processor have to put that data in the protocol and pass it along?

And a transparency failure. On what scale is this happening in the EU?

I hope, at least, that the 3 denials were from the applicants own bank.

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(crossposted to !smartphone_required) A bank sent emails instructing customers to take a KYC interview in their app. What if you don’t have the app? You get a get-out-of-jail free card? I’m betting marginalisation. Those without the app will lose access to their money. Even if you have the app, an app-based interrogation is likely rife with shenanigans. Banks are sneaky. Bankers are like cops. They will ask one question at a time. They can track how long you sit on a question. You won’t know how many questions are ahead. The sensitivity of the questions will gradually escalate. If you reach a question that goes too far and say “fuck this, I’m out”, you would have already given them excessive sensitive data, creating a “point of no return” scenario. You can’t take the previous answers back at that point. When I get a KYC interrogation, I require seeing ALL the questions at once before answering the 1st one. If just 1 question goes beyond my threshold of tolerance, I need to say “fuck off” and give them nothing.

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A ferry taking people across a canal costs 50¢. Cash refused. Over 50 cents! It’s so despicable. People without bank cards cannot cross the canal. Over 50 cents! What about kids? Is a 10 y/o kid expected to have a bank card?

Even if you have a bank card, it’s foolish to add to your digital footprint (and tracking of your whereabouts) for a 50 cent transaction.

I believe they are breaking a law by not posting “no cash” signage. But even if they did, it’s an injustice to make transportation discriminatory and exclusive.

A human rights problem manifests here because banks discriminate against demographics of people on the basis of nationality. So someone who is elderly, handicapped, or injured with a nationality banks discriminate against would be denied ferry service and thus forced to walk a very long distance. Anyone who is unbanked or if their card simply does not work for any reason - they’re fucked, over a 50 cent transaction.

The Netherlands is where we expect human rights to be held in high regard because of The Hague, where the human rights court sits.

Decades past, the Dutch were quite respectable for their tolerance for personal drug use, live-and-let-live principles and gay rights. They had set a good example for the world. But the recent nannying assault on unbanked people & cash payers, forced banking, and privacy disregard is an assault dignity, autonomy, and self-determination. Forcing people to lick banks’ boots and to be dependent on banks is antithetical to the freedom respect the Dutch have a reputation for.

The war on cash (war on privacy) is such a shitshow in Netherlands. It’s rapidly getting worse. Non-Geldmaat ATMs are being removed at a high rate. Some cities only have Geldmaat ATMs, so if Geldmaat rejects your card you’re fucked.

stickman saying “Are you fucking kidding me?”
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From the EU payment services directive 3 proposal:

● Provisions concerning cash withdrawals Operators of retail stores are exempted from the requirement for a payment institution license when they offer cash withdrawal services without a purchase on their premises (on a voluntary basis), if the amount of cash distributed does not exceed EUR 50, in line with the need to avoid unfair competition with ATM deployers.

^ That proposal is from 2023. Anyone know if it has been implemented? Searching eur-lex.europa.eu is a disaster. I could not find any docs on any successors to this proposal, or whether it was implemented. Blocking shops from offering a decent amount of cashback is shitty. But it’s also shitty how one ATM cartel is killing off competing independent ATMs in each country. It would make more sense to allow shops to offer large cashback amounts (they usually only have small amounts anyway), but then limit the number of ATMs per bank in each region so more independent operators can compete.

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Albert Hein has removed their ATMs in Amsterdam. I don’t think the machines were part of the Geldmaat cartel, so this move reduces ATM diversity and empowers the Geldmaat’s monopolizing stranglehold… makes the data collection more centralised. You are extra fucked when Geldmaat rejects your card because in some cities you have no other kind of ATM to try.

Some Spar locations previously had a quite generous cashback service. You could pay by card and get back as much as €150. It’s unclear if it’s just one Spar location that has cut this option off or if all of them. The generous cashback policy got me through the door. I would buy snacks and drinks I don’t really need just for the cashback service. It was a refuge from the ATM shit-show. If the whole Spar chain quit cashback, it would be cool if thousands of people would approach the register with a basket of food, ask for cashback, and abandon the food when refused. I wonder how many people would need to do that to create the perception that they are losing sales over the change.

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It’s interesting to consider that Europe has entered the realm of forced banking while at the same time weak fraud protections prevent victims of electronic payments from reimbursement. Europeans cannot expect protection, nor can they opt out of the broken system. 2022 in France: 4300 cases reveal that banks systematically refuse to reimburse consumers claiming that they have acted with “gross negligence” or have authorised the payment without bringing any proof that the consumer was indeed grossly negligent or at the origin of the payment. (source) There is a shit-show coming in the future for cross-border transactions within Europe. Quoting BEUC:

The European passporting regime allows payment institutions to search for authorisation in one Member State and then provide their service across all Member States. This system is suboptimal for enforcement as payment service providers can choose the Member State with the most liberal regime. In addition, Member States have limited possibilities to take action in their country as they are not responsible for payment service providers who registered elsewhere, and consumers will struggle to file complaints as they need to address a competent authority in another country.

(emphasis added)

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Cash has become a surveillance instrument. It’s now tracked to an extreme that some might regard as a conspiracy theory. But the linked source seems legit. In short:

  • the serial numbers of banknotes you pull from an ATM are all recorded in a centralised DB with a record of your transaction
  • the cash transit services (armored cars) that make pickups from merchants record the serial numbers of all the banknotes linking that merchant to you

So suppose you pull money from the ATM and spend it at some big supermarket chain. If it does not become someone else’s change that day, the armored truck updates the central DB to show where you shop. I get the impression it could be even worse yet if the shop opts to ease the cashier’s effort by using a counting machine, which could then link your inbound banknotes to your specific transaction as well as the outbound banknotes that the machine gives as change.

Imagine how ugly this can get. Consider those tight-fisted right-wing nut jobs who were motivated enough to monitor an abortion clinic parking lot and record the license plates so that when day came for Roe v. Wade to be overturned they could hand that list of plate numbers over to police. Those same nutjobs would gladly pay a cash transport service for serial numbers of banknotes collected from abortion clinics. Or sneakier, they might enter the clinic and ask them to break a $100 note to use a vending machine or something, then submit the serial numbers of the bills they get as evidence. I’m not saying that’s actually being done (I’ve heard no such thing) but people need to be aware of the potential.

It’s no longer streetwise enough to switch to cash. If it comes from an ATM, you have to think about where you are spending it. If you are streetwise, you might spend ATM banknotes at a shop unlikely to use a cash transport service. It may be foolish to spend ATM cash at a shop that uses a cash machine, which could then link you to an alcohol purchase. Note, for example, that a Scandinavian was denied a home loan because the bank said he drinks too much wine (based on transaction history).

The linked article is in German. Here is an

English translation of the linked article

Cash Tracking: You have surveillance instruments in the wallet

Cash is considered an anonymous means of payment. The serial number shows which routes take banknotes. The cash tracking infrastructure is being expanded. They also use German security authorities for investigations.

He's waiting for his assignment in your wallet. He has been on his way for years and reports his location whenever he is scanned – which happens quite often. It can make your interests and needs understandable, show personal connections and business relationships.

It is a bill, a printed strip of cotton fibers with two letters and a ten-digit number chain in the upper right corner on its back – its unique serial number. An exemplary twentieth perhaps. He is registered in countless positions throughout his life. It runs through machines for tickets, parking tickets, snacks, coffee, cigarettes, photos or gambling, and again and again devices that count money, check and sort. Machines with modern banknote processing modules can track serial numbers.

Even if a person holds the banknote, it is not protected from automated serial number recognition. The revenues of most of the shops are collected daily by money transport companies. And they hunt the money in their cash centers by banknote testing and sorting machines, which can also read serial numbers.

The comprehensive use of automated serial number recognition provides the technical infrastructure for detailed tracking of the travel of banknotes. And there are increasing efforts to store and merge the data that arises. Cash becomes a surveillance instrument.

Law enforcement authorities are already using serial number tracking for investigations. The industry wants to optimize cash logistics. And curious people also track cash as a leisure employment. “Because it’s fun!” says it on a website for passionate euro banknote trackers.

There are a lot of payments that some people prefer to make anonymously: spending on health problems or sexual games, for example, but also donations to political organizations. If the appearance that a high official has lifted off today appears tomorrow in a workstation for sex workers, this can make him extorted. If an unfinished person supports a queer NGO with a broken banknote, it can threaten its existence in some places.

Cash is popular – also due to data protection

More than 80 percent of Germans see an argument for cash payments in data protection. More than two thirds find that cash has a high significance for society. According to the latest survey, over half of all cash payment transactions were still processed in 2023. 395 billion euros bunker people in Germany in cash.

Data protectors warn against a new form of mass surveillance and the immense basic right intervention that potentially means cash tracking. The Bundesbank points out that the protection of privacy for many people is an important advantage of cash. People in Germany have a right to informational self-determination. At the same time, the German central bank itself follows the path of certain banknotes on certain occasions. “It is to be assumed that the series number reading will be established permanently and irreversibly,” she writes in an internal document of 2021, which netzpolitik.org has published through the request for information.

Whoever dives into the world of cash tracking takes money differently. The bills tell stories. In this article we explore how cash industry, law enforcement agencies and central banks are working on tracking cash worldwide. We look at how German police and prosecutors use cash tracking. And we get to know a rather unknown start-up that collects serial numbers at a central node of the cash cycle and sells insights into the database to investigators.

“A promising technology”

The necessary technology to follow the path of a banknote already exists and is used in many countries. The lobbying association of central banks and companies in the cash industry, the International Association of Currency Affairs (IACA), considers cash tracking, referred to as “Cycle-Cash Vis andibility Collaboration”, a promising technology. It should make cash more efficient.

Where the industry sees the future, the award for particularly advanced cash tracking solutions that IACA has awarded at the end of May. It has won the Japanese group Glory Ltd with a number of projects in Europe where banks and money transport companies record serial numbers and are automatically searched for numbers involved in criminal actions.

The company also developed Kibango, a software for analysis and management of serial numbers. It can be imported serial number search lists. Any banknote that is removed from an ATM can be tracked, according to the company's advertising material. Such software triggers an alarm when our sample-twenties is listed on a search list as soon as it is scanned somewhere.

These states track cash already very accurately

In China, ATMs must assign the serial number of each banknote they pay to an account. That's how it's clear who brought him into circulation. Some devices even record biometric data of the person withdrawing.

In South Africa, the central bank operates a real-time tracking of cash movements, according to Pearl Kgalegi, head of currency management there, on an IACA meeting. Information from ATMs would be collected in a central database and shared with security authorities. Since this was done, there would be more arrests, for example, after automatic bankruptcies.

The Canadian Central Bank shall conduct a database with data to all Canadian banknotes in circulation in order to detect signs of wear. The Bank of Israel also has a banknote database.

In the USA, a merger of 10,800 US criminal prosecution authorities, called Regional Information Sharing Systems (RISS), operates a network of money-counting machines and a database in which the collected bank notes are stored with photos and serial numbers. Investigators of participating authorities can search this database. In Hawaii, a drug wholesaler had been arrested after having pursued money that had been confiscated, registered and handed out by a customer, such a RISS brochure.

German security authorities also use registered banknotes as an investigative instrument. And just there are aspirations to raise their cash tracking to a whole new level.

These crimes are followed by the German police with cash tracking

The German police have used serial numbers of cash tickets to track cash flows at the latest since the 70s. This can look like this, for example: A human being is kidnapped, the kidnappers make a ransom claim. But before the money is handed over in the suitcase, policemen capture the serial numbers of the bills to be handed over in a police database. In this database, they also note series numbers of banknotes that were exploited for cash transporters in the case of automatic bankruptcies or over-precipitations. If, for example, large amounts of cash are incurred at a border crossing or at a home search, the police or the customs will check whether there are any bills to be sought. Thus, depending on where the money reappears, they can draw conclusions about the perpetrators.

The serial numbers are also linked to people in the police database. “The link between different information categories is possible in the police information network, including personal data,” writes the Bremen police. Parallel to the storage in the national database there is also a flag storage in the Schengen Information System, in which banknote series numbers can also be searched across Europe.

That is, police-known bills circulate out there. And it can be that you have one of them in your wallet.

The investigators do not seem to like to talk about this tool. BKA and regional police refer to tactical reasons from which they should not provide information. At the end of May, the Hamburg police even demanded a corresponding parliamentary request from Deniz Celik. But from the few that the police authorities then replied, it can be seen that and how banknote series numbers are used for investigations.

The police of Thuringia writes: “In the pursuit of money laundering, the knowledge of serial numbers can help to trace illegal cash flows and identify the persons or organisations involved.” As an example, the Bavarian police call terrorism financing, where cash tracking can explain “cash flows or their origin”. The police of other federal states confirm that serial numbers of banknotes are recorded and searched for investigations in different crime areas.

So far, the authorities have to hope that the money bills you are looking for will eventually come up with police or customs control. The chance is relatively small. For this reason, investigators regularly ask the Bundesbank whether it has met a certain bill. This is due to an internal study of 2020, which netzpolitik.org has made public by requesting information. At the time, the Bundesbank tested whether it could process comprehensive serial numbers, also to meet the investigators. She ultimately decided against it. But the investigators can now search for the bills in another database. They may even be connected to a kind of real-time recording of the German cash circuit.

“We listen to cash”

Gerrit Stehle, Managing Director of Elephant & Castle IP GmbH, wants to raise the regulatory cash tracking in Germany to a new level. Stehle offers a stable, automated mass balance with circulating banknote series numbers. An interface in the machine room of the cash infrastructure.

His company gets banknote series numbers with location and time of collection from one of the money transport companies operating in Germany. The money transporters are central points in the cash cycle – most of the bills come by regularly. Gerrit Stehle researches security authorities as an expert in this database. The serial numbers of the notes, whose stories he traces for authorities, are also stored in his system. His company already works with several German prosecutors and also with security authorities from other countries, he says.

“Our technology enables us to trace the history of banknotes at the touch of a button,” says Standle. It was possible to find out which bills were like many times in circulation, which have disappeared or which have left the country. “We use the data analysis to develop a deep understanding of the movements of cash and identify cash flows that may have suspicious patterns. “We’re laughing at cash,” he says. He has been working on the project for seven years, and now 15 people are involved.

The Cybercrime Public Prosecutor of North Rhine-Westphalia (ZAC NRW) has tested the system and presented it in an online training specialist doctors from prosecutors in the areas of organised crime, fraud and corruption. The ZAC NRW also gives a money counting machine that reads serial numbers and offers help in data collection. ZAC-NRW leader Markus Hartmann says that the database is a “instrument used in a manageable number of cases”.

With the serial number registration, Stehle and his partner company rely on a certain money counting device from the manufacturer Glory Ltd from Japan, which is the most reliable. The information obtained shall be communicated to the investigating authorities in the form of an expert opinion. They could then compare the data with the statements of accused persons and expose inconsistencies or confirm admissions. “An example from practice: In one case, a person claimed that the money was fresh from the bank, but through our analysis we were able to prove that the cash was already much older,” says Stehle.

Authorities should get a direct interface

If you prefer to connect to your cash monitoring network, you would like to add further control points. “Money Counters are already widespread, such as in the back office of supermarkets, which offers a significant potential. If series numbers of banknotes were systematically recorded, overages on older sections of the population, money transporters, banking machines or retail stores could lose significantly attractiveness. ‘

In doing so, Standle sees the danger. The possibility of carrying out anonymous transactions “is a fundamental pillar of freedom,” he says. But he also sees the shadow side: cash can be abused to support illegal activities.

The aim is to make its system directly accessible to investigators via paid software licenses. No way over the expert. “Using a user-friendly interface, they could then connect to the 24/7 system and perform the corresponding evaluations independently,” says Standle.

The value transport company from which the data originates does not receive any money. “The company has the advantage that costs can be reduced because there are tending to be fewer attacks and that retailers and banks can offer the use of this new technology,” says Stehle. Which one of the companies is working with him, he doesn't want to betray.

The collected data, with copies in multiple locations, in a cloud developed in a cooperation with Google and Telekom, says Stehle. They are also protected from unauthorized access by US security authorities.

How sensitive are the data?

Right to privacy, Stehle does not see any problems. “The data are not subject to data protection. We do not collect any personal data from citizens,” he says. The GDPR only protects personal data – i.e. those relating to a directly or indirectly identifiable person. A lot of other data is not included, for example, weather records. But do data on cash flows really have as little to do with individual persons, such as wind power?

Luke Hoß, left-wing member of the Bundestag, sees a threat to privacy in cash tracking: “A comprehensive tracking of cash serial numbers would allow profound insights into the private life of people. Not only the passage to the baker, but also the journey to a clinic for abortions would be comprehensible.” The right to privacy should not be further restricted by reference to security aspects. “In the event of a seizure of authoritarian parties such as the AfD, there is a risk that the processes involved will lead to persecution, even if they are legal according to the current legal situation,” he says.

Although Gerrit is talking about “sach data”, he nevertheless shows understanding that the data is not completely harmless. “You have a certain potency, such information should not be in private hands,” he says. That is why he only offers his services to government agencies. In part, there would already be interfaces between police case-handling tools and its system. “Our tools upload our data into their tools,” he says.

An international patent, which he has registered in 2018, will show what future standing can imagine. He calls it the “nucleus of the project”. In it, Stehle describes a machine that accepts cash and by means of the serial numbers on the bills recognizes whether this money has been reported stolen or has been transferred as part of a ransom extortion. He should be able to automatically notify police or security services in the case of appropriate finds. And at gas stations, according to the patent, ticket machines could automatically initiate the storage of the appropriate video images at a fund of money sought.

Customs union chief demands comprehensive cash tracking

Frank Buckenhofer, chairman of the police union in customs, is a dedicated advocate of cash tracking technology. ‘Banks and also money-curing services shall record the numbers of banknotes and their temporally local allocation. It would be helpful if these data were merged and made available to the police and customs authorities,” he says. The data adds a relatively dense network of important information on the way and origin of cash. “And because the mere numbers are not personal data, data protection does not matter,” he says. The data protection officer of Schleswig-Holstein sees this differently – more about it.

If large amounts of cash were found by police and customs authorities, Buckenhofer's hope would be able to identify contradictions in the statements with the aid of registered serial numbers. “If, for example, someone at the border with a million euros of cash or more, what happens again and again, he can tell the officials every story. For example, the fact that it is “apart from the grandma”, says Buckenhofer. If, however, bills were identified with a money-counting machine, which were still in many different ATMs, in gas stations or supermarkets in the last 48 hours, then the history of the money courier collapses. “So we urgently need these data, otherwise people can fill us with the cough. ‘

With the technology, former ransom and money can also be traced from cracked ATMs. For example, the search for suspects can be intensified in regions where searched banknotes appear. “The systematic collection of banknotes in a database allows a whole range of uses for the criminalistic work of customs and police,” says Buckenhofer. He would like to have laws on cash tracking and a private-sector serial number database that can access customs and police, tax finance and money laundering authorities online.

Data protection officer in custody

Marit Hansen, State Commissioner for Data Protection Schleswig-Holstein, sees comprehensive cash tracking critical. She says: “If serial numbers are stored with time and place of collection and this data is collected more and more granularly, you lose the anonymity of the cash.” It could be problematic, even if the collection is based on legitimate interests. “In the overall view, there is a risk that the individual data will give a personal reference. From a certain threshold, for example, location data could be derived from persons. It was also possible to find out who is interested in what,” she says.

Through comprehensive cash tracking, not only risks for individuals, but also for business secrets and possibly even for internal security, says Hansen. Thus, for example, secretly usable information about safety-relevant persons could be obtained.

Hansen compares the serial numbers with the printer IDs, so-called Yellow Dots, which are contained in color prints. “These are only technical data and yet they can be used, for example, to identify whistleblowers. ‘

Hansen considers it important that people have a truly anonymous payment option. Personal or even intimate details can be found from the notes of payment: more or less healthy diet, addictions, love. “These are information that others do nothing. Here people have the legitimate interest not to leave traces,” she says.

In a further part of this research, we pursue the life of a banknote from print to shredder and see where serial numbers are already registered everywhere. The round trip in the cash cycle clearly shows how the imminent networking of the data points would deanonymize the cash.

Martin Schwarzbeck

Martin has been editor at netzpolitik.org since 2024. He studied sociology, worked as a journalist for numerous media, from ARD to taz, and was recently a long editor at Berliner Stadtmagazinen, where he often took up digital topics. Martin is interested in power structures and relations between people and states and people and corporations. A focus is on techniques and systems of monitoring, whether from state organs or companies.

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