If downloading a 4GB file is such a climate disaster, I think we need to examine stuff like the Nvidia driver (0.7GB), games, all of npm, etc.

"...without consent."

Reminder: Chrome is a closed-source, proprietary browser. It has been able to do anything it wants without your consent since it was created.

54 extensions steal Google account identity via OAuth2

It's embarrassing the Chrome extension store/infrastructure does not catch these

I wonder what upsides those "web client" extensions bring for platforms you could just open "clients" as websites for (telegram, tiktok listed). Not need to install an extension.

Scientists reveal the sun will rise tomorrow morning. More news at 11.

Just use freaking Firefox!!!

The window's title bar shows the tab's title.

I am actually trying vertical tabs after reading this and it is surprisingly disorienting for me. I think the major reason for me is that if I need to check the URL I need to read the top but if I want to read the tab title, I have to look left. Using split windows is also common for me, where the proportions are inversed. I think I'll go back to horizontal tabs soon

Then put the tabs on the right? ;-)

The core thing that makes horizontal tabs not very useful to me is that having the top of the vertical tabs area used for bookmarks is superior to anything that can be done with horizontal tabs.

For sidebar-style tabs Zen is absolutely amazing

Also it looks really imbalanced, you'll always have to turn your head to the right a bit

Yes I think i was thinking of the compact view of the vertical tab bars. Then I would say it's just the aesthetics for me. As a left to right reader, it feels the tab titles habe a lots prominent presence than the main content. It's a matter of getting used to then.

No. They're a waste of space.

Why wouldn't they be visible?

Vertical tabs let you see way more tab titles than horizontal tabs that start reducing the width when horizontal space runs out.

Main reason I use vertical tabs.

Meh.

I have been using vertical tabs for a long time, through Tree Style Tab (Firefox Extension), which has the additional benefit of tree hierarchy.

I don't see a "everyone should use them", though. People have different usage patterns, number of tabs, amount of parallel or queued work and concerns, or ability to clear out tabs on session end. Many people prefer classic horizontal tabs - whether as a deliberate decision or not.

I certainly prefer horizontal tabs, and by a lot. But I don't think it's the best layout for everyone and every usage pattern. It's good that we have the choice of alternatives.

Not a very good argument since vertical tabs take 10-12 cm of space, while regular horizontal ones take less than 2 cm.

Maybe this is an attempt in killing browsers designed specifically for this kind of layout like Zen browser and Arc. Firefox had this for a long time also.

Fuck you!

But yes, you are right

No, thanks. They look fucking ugly.

Idk man I just prefer having tab titles visible for quicker navigation. If I'm actually doing some long form reading, full screen is one key press away

Disagree, as one who uses the tiling system having different windows in a 2x2 grid or half + 2x1 grid. While vertical real estate is more valuable than horizontal for reading, vertical browser tabs would cramp the horizontal space too much, and having the browser in the top half just dont work well exactly because of the value of vertical space.

Best argument from the article imo:

It’s a simple matter of screen real estate. Virtually every modern computer display is widescreen, which is to say it’s wider than it is tall. Websites and web apps, meanwhile, are practically always vertical experiences. Whether you’re on a 13-inch laptop or a 32-inch behemoth of a monitor, the space from top to bottom of your computer is more precious than the space from left to right.

This has the unfortunate side effect of eliminating the line of death between trusted interface and untrusted content.

Vivaldi doesn't have a commitment to maintaining Manifest V2 extension support though; at least with Firefox forks the AI slop can be removed without abandoning proper extension support.

Good, keep AI the hell out of Vivaldi.