[–] 9 points 1 year ago

16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Matthew 19.

Most of these so-called christians are not following their text very well.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    They quote "Paul" more than Jesus. Paul probably wrote 7 out of 28 books in the New Testament. Another 7 are attributed to him. It used to be very popular to pretend to be Paul. Odds are, a lot of the stuff they're quoting came from some random guy (well, that's most of the Bible, let's be honest), and the rest was altered by a bunch of monks to better fit the message that nobles, monarchs, and the Church wanted to push, which was subservience.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Biblically" you should go out there and donate your wealth to the poor people that you're shitting on. All of it. Go spread the word of the Lord. Get out there, help people. Do it, you won't. No balls.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There are 813 billionaires in the US today. If we took away everything above $12B from them, we would start moving the roughly $5T they are sitting on while still leaving them with $1B-$12B each.

    You are bringing up a completely different subject than what I referred to, which is that the 1% includes all net worths of $13M or more.

    This conversation isnt about redistribution of much of anything from the 1% at large. Its about dislodging the 5 trillion dollars that sit largely in the hands of like 10 people. Just that $5T moving would be enough to allow the rest of the 1% unaffected. Thats like 1/3rd of the federal deficit

    I fail to see where my math has been wrong at any point. The point of targeting that $5T specifically is because its $5T that is virtually guaranteed to never move otherwise. Its just feel good money for the mega billionaires, which even 1%er cant relate to or justify

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, you don't know how to do math.

    Top 1% in USA has 42 trillion dollars. People with more than 12 billion dollars have a total of 3 trillion dollars, from which you want to let them remain with about 1 trillion.

    So this cap only redistributes 2 trillion from the 1%, which is less than 5% of the wealth that they are hoarding. This doesn't fix shit. Do you still not get it?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I dont know how to better explain the difference in magnitude of what kind of problem the existence of a hundred millionaire versus a mega billionaire is than I already have. Im more than aware the 1% includes anyone with over $13M. $13M is chump change in the grand scheme of things

    I understand you personally are focused on all high level wealth. Simple math reveals that they are not where your buying power as an American wage earner went. Simple math shows that someone with $100M and someone with $10 are basically equally as poor as one another compared to even someone with $12B, let alone someone with $400B.

    Do you understand? There really is no need to devolve into stupid personal attacks simply because you dont get my point. Im building a bridge initiative as a progressive. Not trying to build an idealized progressive initiative, like the many I have watched come and go as a progressive individual. Progressive hardly even means one specific thing in the first place anyways

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    That cap only affects to the top 0.0001% of richest americans. So it does matter because there are 10000 more people in the 1% than in the bracket your cap affects to. And you don't even want to redistribute all their money, they could keep more money than they could spend in a thousand lives.

    At this point I think you are larping because this is the most ridiculous thing I have seen trying to pass as a progressive initiative.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    We are not focused on class war between the majority and the 1%, because (by the numbers) they are not the direct threat to the sustainability of the system. They are not where our money has gone to.

    The difference between someone with even $12B and Musk level wealth is the difference between a single story house and a 36 story skyscraper. We are focused on tearing down the skyscraper and taxing the house appropriately. To be frank, the wealth of people with less than a billion dollars is not on our radar as a problem. In contrast, we would like their help in tearing down the skyscrapers. That is the point of our community. We are only after the excess wealth of 250 people in the world.

    So again, I welcome you 100% to the tent if you are interested, but politically our goals will always remain simple and be augmented by simple arguments. If that means we are not the community for you, I understand. Were seeking to act rationally in pursuit of a more ethical world, not to demand ethical perfection from the outset. To be honest I personally believe that ethical perfectionism, infighting, and shrinking the tent are major reasons why progressive movements to rectify wealth inequality constantly fail

    Louis Sachar once wrote an entire book based around the concept that “if you want to fight your way upstream in a river, you have to take small steps”. We arent looking at the end of the river, were looking at the first small steps. Also that book is a great sequel to Holes for anyone who has never heard of it

    Our argument may seem reductive, but anyone with at least one functioning eyeball can see the simple nature of the problem. The skyscrapers are a head and shoulders above the single story house. Its a simple problem to see, and an exponential one. 6 people in the world owned half of all the money before covid. Now the problem is even worse. I would venture that the richest 250 people in the world probably own 3/4ths of all the money at this point, at least.

    Money was made to move. When that money is parked it doesnt change hands. When it doesnt change hands it doesnt get taxed, things dont get bought. When that happens the government doesnt have the resources it needs, and the economy goes out of whack as well. Its a simple problem that ties into literally every issue imaginable just on that basis. Climate change? We could use more resources to fight it. Materials science to solve the plastic problem? More resources to fight it. People cant afford rent? More resources to pay them. People cant afford healthcare? Do you wish we had bridges to drive over that arent 60+ years old? Are you tired of paying for a fishing/hunting license to subsidize conservation? Everything big and small is impacted in some way by the wealth of the richest 250 people not moving, both inside the US and around the world.

    The goal of the movement is not to change the system, really. We arent arguing for moving away from capitalism, even if many of us would like to see that. What we are arguing for is fixing the most unsustainable problem within the system we already have, so that we can continue to fight for a better system in general.

    A primary goal is to keep the tent be as wide as is possible. The point being that we are fighting specifically on this one issue that should, at least hypothetically, bridge the gap between even people who want radical change and people who want to see no change at all. For people who want radical changes, this is the first step in the right direction. For people who want to see no change at all, this is a step that will prevent the collapse of what they dont want to see changed.

    For anyone too broke to afford cost of living, this is what will raise them up to afford a base level of comfort. For the 1%ers, this is what will ensure they get to keep the standard of living they already have, as well as make a shit ton of money off the rest of us. If anything I see this community as an incubation for a political bridge party that can actually bring enough people under one tent to affect change, and breakthrough the various distractions that the richest people in the world rely on so we dont come after them. Red vs blue, black vs white, majority vs 1%ers, and so on and so forth. Its all just bullshit to keep us from paying attention to the 0.0001% who have almost all of the money.

    We are focused on making the system we have, flawed as it is, a base level of sustainable in the interest of everybody. Regardless of what they would want to see next.

    To analogize: if were all in one car together right now that is a hunk of shit, and we got a flat tire, the goal for us is to fix the tire so we can make it down the road. Some might want to abandon the car right now even if it means chaos. Some might want to fix the flat so we can get a different car. And some might want to fix the flat so we can keep driving the same hunk of shit. But the goal of our community would be centered on fixing the tire, to avoid chaos and to leave our options open for the future

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I've been seeing that chart for 30 or 40 years now, and I just realized I've never seen one from around the turn of the century. Probably due to not having the data to create it. But I'm curious what the mechanization of agriculture would look like in this format.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ehh, it's commercial brain.

    Before I was clued in there was a lot of awkward interactions where I would rub up against the system that I thought was working. The other person would just quietly end the conversation and I would be confused by this.

    Now that I understand it, things like making my house AI, is an obvious problem. But for somebody who hasn't been informed there's no way to know.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I originally wrote a message specifically to this community, but it appears to be gone from the post for some reason. Ill try and rewrite it:

    We are not looking to compete with this community, but believe incremental steps are key in moving towards a most equitable society

    While we seek to cap wealth at $12B, as a means of eradicating the most problematic wealth accumulation, we hope that it also might serve as a means of proof-of-concept for wealth caps and redistribution at large. We also want to have the widest tent possible, and seek the assistance of the 1% in capping the wealth of the richest 250 people in the world for the sake of humanity and economic sustainability. We want to keep our movement and message as simple as possible. The current system is unsustainable, and it’s bad for everyone but 250 people. Even those who have hundreds of millions of dollars. If regular people have no buying power, their money will eventually go to the dogs just like the rest of us

    I hope you will take the time to look into our arguments and consider joining us as well!

    !aspen_anti_billionaire_society@midwest.social

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I'm just talking about the replay value of beatsaber as a whole. I think the argument about it being an old game would work for most other games, but beatsaber has some of the best replayability, even if you only consider the consistent pace of official DLC releases. As for custom maps, the past couple of days have seen almost 30 community maps uploaded per day. It's like a constant firehouse to sort through. I spend a good 20 minutes every session checking out new songs.

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