Right now they do those things, while also surrounded by armed guards, but they've been building their bunkers and arming their megayachts and getting ready to bug out when things get too spicy for them. Peter "Saruman" Thiel is already fleeing to Argentina, probably because he's starting to realize that his billions might not actually be enough to protect his "openly gay while raising a child" ass from getting thrown into the gulags with the rest of the underclass that he had a hand in creating and surveiling by the very political party he's been aligned with and empowering.

currently rotting in a hospital bed because i’m very chronically ill

Yeah there plenty of dumbfucks having kids. Just yesterday had a coworker bragging that all her daughter were pregnant and due soon.

I just can't see how anyone can look at this economy and the world and want to bring more kids into this hell.

Mammy Two-Shoes, Wizard Kelly and Ms. Bellum have blink and you'll miss it reveals of their faces.

Cow and Chicken's mom and dad were revealed to just be talking torsos and legs in the I.M. Weasel crossover episode.

You can change this

that's bed fermenting

i deal with a lot of zionists. they both state there isn't a genocide, while they celebrate the material reality of the genocide.

They already started over with gen alpha

it's not rotting if you enjoy it

Happens in other countries, too. We had one guy passed out in front of the school before graduation. He almost didn't make it back in time from the hospital to the graduation speech.

Never met someone who said it's no genocide.

However, I think the quality and speed of this genocide is very low compared to others. It's weird. Almost like they stretch it out to enjoy it more.

While i was rotting in my room people my age were being brought home from the hospital because they drank too much and needed to have their stomach pumped and or brought home from jail because they stole something or broke into somewhere.

This was in the Balkans btw and people there can be stupid af.

One classmate was in the hospital for the stomach pumping, two died one (23) on his way to work but still drunk and another (20) on his way home after drinking, my brother got taken to the station because they found weed on him, he was 15 at the time and multiple others did other stupid shit that didn't do much other than get them into trouble.

Um ahcktually åäö exists

No, I get that the resources could be distributed better, but there is no environment wherein the current population is going to be supportable by the current biome esp considering climate change.

It's wild to think otherwise, frankly.

Aids was preventable with condoms

Condoms also weren't made widely available until the 00s.

Pretty much every bad thing you’ve mentioned is happening right now

I haven't seen that to be the case.

Aids was preventable with condoms or staying with people who didn't have aids, the effects of climate change can't be avoided (besides maybe being rich and moving).

Pretty much every bad thing you've mentioned is happening right now, but all at once. Abortion/ abortion drugs are banned in many states, Trump and ~70 million republicans made light of covid which caused far more deaths than aids and encouraged people to spread it, we have the most insane levels of corruption (j6ers got pardoned and paid 2b, Trump coin, literal insider trading by the president, supreme court saying something would be "inconvenient" in order to give unconstitutional readings). And the people supporting this are not some small whackjob minority, it's 70 million people seeing an American on the ground not moving getting shot by ICE and saying "he was asking for it."

The thing is a lot of countries actually face a population crisis because there aren't enough children to replace their ageing populations. Ideally the solution would be migration from places that are overpopulated, but this is politically frought. And most people (I think) who decide not to have kids are doing so because they can't afford to in their increasingly unequal societies. So I'm fine to agree to disagree but my point was always that this is a societal issue more than a freedom of choice thing.

Yeah I love life, each day is a gift I value and I can't wait to wake up for more.

I also never hear alarms and wake up naturally... which is a huge contributing factor to waking up well.

Good luck with your future then. I appreciate your optimism but realistically the whole world needs to change and IMHO we are nowhere near that synergy yet.

There are a lot of babies and children in the world already without parents. Adopt one or two. Despite what weird people like Musk say, we aren't facing a crisis because we're not having enough children. If that were the case the world would have been on the brink of collapse several billion people ago. We have too many people now. We have plenty of resources, but we're not going to use them to help the people who need help because we're - as a species - pretty evil.

Aids is also something we learned how it spreads and could massively reduce the risk of, which is not true for any of the new problems.

What?

We have never had the head of the fda being antivax and actively cutting vaccine programs.

We have had a number of administrations, following the official creation of the modern FDA, abuse the roles and advanced industry profits over human health and safety. Reagan very famously made light of the AIDS crisis specifically, accusing reporters and advocates of sodomy whenever the issue was raised. Bush restricted the sale of Plan B abortion drugs, restricted public school education on contraception, and banned embrionic stem cell research to pander to Christian fascists in his party. You can just Google the various scandals around the FDA. No shortage of corrupt and incompetent leaders, nevermind instances when a president would leave the office vacant indefinitely to obstruct its functions.

Why?

It’s a more positive word for average

Oh I'm not giving up for a second. But that's not what this conversation is about. I just consider bringing a kid into this world that is already running into issues with a population running out of control as a move completely counter to what we need. I don't think no one should ever have kids again, but I do think people should be far more choosy about how many children they are having. And society needs to shift to a model where having a declining population doesn't completely ruin the economy.