[–] 0 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

I realize I oversimplified a complex set of moves and “shared source” is its own can of worms. My post was already too long.

But my core point is that the code (as Valkey) remained available and remains available under the same free software license that it has always been available under.

The only consequence of what Redis did was that they stopped giving away their “new” code to service providers like Amazon. Even Amazon can continue to use what was there before. And the community can continue to collaborate on the same code base that they were collaborating on before. The licence Redis chooses for its “new” code is largely irrelevant.

We talk about permissive licenses like they represent some massive risk. I just do not see it that way. And they have many advantages including often attracting more corporate participation (more free code for me).

I am a very happy user of Clang/LLVM. It is the product of collaboration between Google, Apple, Sony, Microsoft, academia, and other nerds. I am very happy we have licenses that encourage companies to create quality software for me to use.

I am sure Redis chose BSD to begin with in case they ever had to make a move like they did. If the only option was GPL, they may never have released it as Open Source to begin with. Again, I am glad they did.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    I never liked KDE. I used it before there was GNOME but I used GNOME 2 for years and Cinnamon or XFCE after that.

    I probably tried KDE4 once and KDE5 a couple times. Not for me. But I have used KDE a lot since Plasma 6. I have to agree with you. They are doing a great job. It is probably the best environment for Wayland.

    I also use COSMIC a bit and Niri is my favourite environment. But I do seem to be using Plasma 6 a lot. It is sitting in front of me now.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    First, there has been massive amounts of MIT code in important parts of the Linux ecosystem for decades. Xorg, Wayland, and Mesa for starters. The sky has not fallen. I am not exactly panicking.

    But let’s address your specific example.

    Let start by pointing out that Redis was BSD, not MIT. But let’s assume your cautionary tale applies.

    A truly gigantic corporation, Amazon, was making all the money off Redis without giving anything back to the company that actually wrote the code (Redis). So, Redis tried to change the license to make that more difficult. The license they chose is the strictest free software license the FSF offers—the AGPL.

    Pop quiz: what part of the above are we “the community” outraged about? The clearly predatory Amazon stuff? Or the defensive action by the company writing all the code? That’s right, we are mad at the company that gave us all the code for free and that still licenses it AGPL.

    But even beyond that, what was lost again? Because the implication is that BSD (or MIT) somehow allows companies to “take” free software from us. This is false.

    What happened with Redis is that the original code remained 100% available. And it remained part of a 100% free software project. It remains 100% BSD licensed to this day. You can use it, you can study it, you can improve it, you can share it, and you can even sell it commercially! It offers you at least FIVE freedoms.

    https://github.com/valkey-io/valkey

    Not a single line of code was lost from the project. Yes, the project had to change its name (Redis owns the name Redis). Yes, Redis stopped contributing to the project. Is that not their right?

    It is that last bit that seems to drive us mad. We yell about corporations taking our code. But all the examples of bad behaviour we give boil down to them choosing to give us less of theirs.

    If “the community” is the one writing the code, nobody can take it from us. And even if big evil companies are writing the code, the only code that they can deny us is code they write in the future.

    I find it hard to be either outraged or even particularly afraid of that.

    Anyway, I do not want to talk you out of your license preferences. I have no beef with that. But I do wish there was less FUD slinging at projects that choose to license their hard work as MIT.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    I do not know how that article covered so much background on GNU hURD and the quest for a micro-kernel UNIX without mentioning Redox OS.

    https://www.redox-os.org/

    Redox is also micro-kernel based POSIX compatible operating system (UNIX compatible). So quite like the GNU project and HURD in that sense.

    Redox is younger, 10 years old instead of 30, and more “modern” (eg. written in Rust). It can be seen as a GNU competitor as it does not rely on the GNU C library or utilities.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    17% are willing to say that they WANT Canada to be part of the US. Only two-thirds are willing to say they would prefer Canadian independence.

    What percentage would really care if their stated preference was not reality? The ceiling is 2 out of 3. The ceiling. That is as good as it gets.

    What percentage would lift a finger to resist US dominion over Canada? What percentage would actively resist or take on any level of effort and or risk at all to prevent it? Dramatically less.

    If the US invaded Canada, what percentage of Americans would choose to support Canada over their own county even if the invasion was illegal or immoral? Clearly, the majority would support their government. In that scenario, what percentage of Americans would you consider to represent “the enemy?”

    And if you think I am being too harsh, let’s ask the question from a different angle. What percentage of Americans are doing anything at all to reduce the threat to Canada right now? I mean, doing anything at all? Only 2 in 3 can muster indicating it as a preference in answer to a question.

    Many people reading this will insist that they did not ask for this. What percentage of those voted against Donald Trump in the last federal election? That number is less than one third. That is an easily verifiable fact. Less than one in three did the absolute bare minimum to stop the second Trump term from happening. That means 2 out of every 3 Americans did nothing back then. What are they doing now?

    You need to revise your 17% number in your first sentence up dramatically. I am not hopeful that they answer to your second question hits anything close to double digits.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I would agree with you. That said, bad experiences with things like PPA’s are one the reasons people reach for immutable distros.

    I think as soon as you start adding PPA’s to your system, you should consider a distro with a larger repository. But that is just my opinion.

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