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[–] 36 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

And it will keep extending! See "greater israel", they want everything from the Nile to the Euphrates.

They think that the entire region is theirs (including parts of Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq), as they are the "chosen people". Israel is doing exactly what it was created for by US/UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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    Because that’s as far as Solomon ever expanded the borders.

    This isn’t about land volume; it’s about specific access to specific land.

    And that goes for the Palestinians too — they have olive groves that have been in the family for hundreds of years; their traditions and connection is to Palestine, not a specific volume of land.

    Even the Christian and Jewish Zionists — they need control of specific land areas that are specified in the prophecies, with the goal of global annihilation and the building of the new Jerusalem in that particular physical location.

    These three goals aren’t compatible with each other.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I seriously doubt that's the real reason for those making the decisions. It's just an easy explanation, and they'll come up with other excuses when they keep expanding their borders.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago*

    Millions have died over these religions, Jews, Christians, Muslims will all die over nothing tangible. Not all of them, but many. For them, it's the real reason.

    They are often used by others, with their own, more secular reasons. For example, the USA wants control of the Middle East through a proxy state. So, they will use Jewish fundamentalists and their moderate "feeders" to do so.

    Your doubts are irrelevant, as you're not a believer, are you? Sure, you can believe that Israel wants to own the entire continent or all of the Earth... but that's just your imagination.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Death to these fascists.

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  • [+] -28 points 5 months ago (30 children)

    This is my proposal to end the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Egypt will be given the West Bank enlarged by land equivalent to the Gaza Strip. In return, Israel will be given the Gaza Strip and land at least 3 times larger than the West Bank in the Sinai Peninsula. Some of the land will be adjacent to water so Israel can build desalination plants. The Sinai is inhospitable, and Egypt doesn’t have the technology to develop it, but Israel does. With its new land, Egypt can give it to the Palestinians, make it a state within Egypt, or whatever it wants.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Ah yes, more ethnic cleansing because "hey, they're all Arab anyways". Some of the most racist shit I've seen today.

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  • [+] -14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    What? Under my proposal Palestinians would have a homeland although under Egyptian control.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Nah egypt return nothing. Israel return everything they occupied after 67

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    Egypt isn't returning anything. It will be exchanging land in the Sinai for the West Bank and land equivalent to Gaza.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    The west bank is palestinians, rgypt has no right to get it. Israel is illegally colonizing and occupying other people land, they have to return it all. Israel want to get it all with their grester Israel project.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Under my proposal Egypt is getting the West Bank in exchange for giving Israel a portion of the Sinai. How do you plan to get Israel to return it all?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Again israel want to steal more land. Colonizers was always forced to return land

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    How do you plan to force Israel to return land?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Resistance, bds and continue to push countries to stop defending Israel.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    The US won't stop supporting Israel. My proposal would give Palestinians a homeland although controlled Egypt.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    Again israel want to colonize more land from arab countries. Never in historty settler colonial Power left without being forces to. Your proposal is dumb

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Under my proposal, Israel wouldn't be forced to move but enticed to move by being offered more land in the Sinai.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Again israel want to steal more land , not replacing some land with other. Are you a troll or what?

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    No, Israel would get a piece of the Sinai in exchange for giving the West Bank enlarged by an area equivalent to Gaza to Egypt.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Again .Israel is a settler colonial power that want to steal more land. They will accept nothing till they are forced to. Your idiotic proposal not only it will not be accepted by israel but also not by palestinian and egyptian. Palestinians want their own indepedenent state and egypt economical situation can't manage millions additional people

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Israel could accept my proposal because it would be given a large piece of the Sinai. It could develop the land and become a more populous country. Egypt would have peace at its border and avoid Palestinian refugees displaced by Israel. Palestinians would have a homeland although controlled by Egypt. Palestinians survive now, why would they be an economic burden to Egypt? Israel won't agree to an independent Palestinian state and who will make it change its mind?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Israel will not accept your dumb proposal because they want to take everything by force. Why would they accept to return the west bank in exchange of sinai when they believe they can keep the west bank and still take the sinai?

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They're not going to take the Sinai. Had they wanted to, they would have done it. Israel has the most powerful military in the Middle East.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    They will. Right now they didn't end the full extermination of Gazan and the west bank. Egypt is still useful for them to act like jail guard for gazan. Because the peace deal between iarael and egypt, israel ca close the rafah border at will.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How about we abolish the idea of ethnostates at all and a policy of reparation amd reform is put into place as an actually democratic state is created. And Smotrich, Ben-Gvir, and Netanyahu are schekht. They aren't kosher regardless of ritual, but maybe it'll purify them at least a little bit.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I dont think Egypt wants the palestinians, unfortunately

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    If Israel takes over Palestinian land, they're going somewhere. My proposal would give them a homeland under Egyptian control.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    If we return Palestinian lands to Palestinians, Israelis have to go somewhere, as well.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They would return to Israel, but how do you plan to get Israelis to leave? Under my plan, Israel would get land in the Sinai.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sorry, but your plan is just letting Israeli perform another Nakba, and that's horrible. If that's the level of planning you're coming up with, we might as well just have the whole world militarily force Israelis out of the area. Making Palestinians lose more of their land is the last thing we want.

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