how could daughters look their engineer-dads in the eyes, no matter the country they're in, the same before? this was our BeforeTimes (ignoring Bill Gates' antitrust). everyone knows this was a chokehold, and you did not all celebrate the "or you're fired" bit, nor did you only see it as "mere play". "americans" are not the only ones to blame. the paternalism ain't paternalizing. discuss.