Key architectural details

Mixture of Experts (MoE): 128 experts, with 4 active per token, enabling efficient scaling and specialization.

119B total parameters, with 6B active parameters per token (8B including embedding and output layers).

256k context window, supporting long-form interactions and document analysis.

Configurable reasoning effort: Toggle between fast, low-latency responses and deep, reasoning-intensive outputs.

Native multimodality: Accepts both text and image inputs, unlocking use cases from document parsing to visual analysis.

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[–] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

At this point, these small models should add explicit minimum hardware requirements just so they can stand out. STM32 w xxGB of PSRAM. Android phone w this much RAM, how many TOPS, and minimum OS version. ESP32-S3 or S4? That sort of thing.

If you just say 'small,' you get lost in the noise.

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  • [+] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Looks a little underwhelming with Qwen3.5 and Haiku beating it.

    However, 6B active parameters and it's trained to return short results could make this useful as a Qwen for local model. I've overall found Mistral models to be better to discuss with, but also the devstral small models were kinda janky last I used them (stuff like infinite loops and getting confused by less common programming languages). Qwen models are by far the most verbose out of the box, and happily burn a ton of tokens on useless thought. It's an over-emphasis on reinforcement learning.

    Also weird they use GPT 4.1 as the judge model. That's a year old model, not nearly SOTA, and IIRC underwhelmed on most metrics. So it feels like a poor candidate judge.

    Edit: we have a GPT5 -- some of the charts are labelled wrong

    Not mentioned in the blog post, but on HF: they created a small speculative decoding model go with it -- https://huggingface.co/mistralai/Mistral-Small-4-119B-2603-eagle

    That should accelerate inference speeds on some setups.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    For certain values of small...

    That said, Mistral is strong in world knowledge and something this big is likely quite so. The 6B experts can fit in reasonable amounts of system RAM (Q4_K_M is ~ 72 GB so it'd likely run reasonably in 64 GB system RAM and 24 GB VRAM) and run at reasonable if not spectacular speeds, speculative decoding could help too (but that eagle is 392MB, which is scary tiny).

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago

    Qwen models are by far the most verbose out of the box, and happily burn a ton of tokens on useless thought. It’s an over-emphasis on reinforcement learning.

    I now have a system prompt just to say please stop talking Qwen 😭

    Even a hello can result in 3 paragraphs by default

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I have an 7900XTX, Ryzen 9 7950X3D with 96GB ram which I humbly believe is already way above 95% people's setup

    I don't think I can run this, not with ollama that's for sure

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