Sit your ass down in Gaza, Jimbo. Your 'natural point of view' will drastically change.

We cant afford to be neutral on a moving train.

Now playing System of a Down - Deer Dance

This is not an isolated incident, but a preview: more liberal masks are poised to fall.

@cypherpunks he is wrong, as many genocide specialist (including those from Israel) will tell him.He just supports genocide against people of different colour. It’s the American way.

Wow, with how much the right hated them I just assumed they were good guys. So much for that idea. Will no longer be supporting financially either.

@cypherpunks Wikipedia is human-edited, and humans are flawed. However, the body of editors overall means it is self-correcting, in time. Jimbo may be a founder, but as an editor, his is one voice only. I think it is grossly unfair to condemn the entire thing over one person's views. It is still the best source of info there is - overall. Some of the replies here are... disturbing, frankly.

Isn't the UN like what makes the decision? Like the Geneva convention? Like what body needs to say it's a genocide for it to be a fact? https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

Yikes Wikipedia isn't just infiltrated by Zionists but created by one.

But not calling the Gaza genocide a genocide is a violation of truth, common sense, and basic decency...

English language Wikipedia is a US psyop. I wonder how much Atlanticist propaganda gets stuffed into other languages’ Wikipedias.

I stopped giving a shit about and even using Wikipedia back in 2019 when they locked everybody in Southern California using a certain major service out of making edits to any article. I was trying to edit an article on carbon because they had an isotope incorrectly labeled and I was told multiple times by Wikipedia volunteers and their staff that there is some dog joke bot that made it really impossible for them to control ... so they locked millions of people out of making any kind of edits because dog jokes. So the infactual science stayed in the carbon article and that's when I realized Wikipedia is just controlled by a handful of assholes. I stopped donating then. When I asked them who gets to make edits they said they're not really sure who the volunteers are but they trust them and when I asked Wikipedia staff how they account for the trustworthiness of who their editors are and what their intentions are, staff had no answer. But I can't make an edit to a carbon article but anon can ... even if they have some sort of agreement behind the scenes about controlling the information on Wikipedia. That's no problem. Just, you know, infactual information about a carbon isotope that's the problem. Fuck Wikipedia. Encyclopedia Britannica still rules and is worth the money.

I can't even talk on that page. This is how wikipedia dies

And just like that, Wiki made itself useless in this world...

I assume good faith of everyone who has worked on this Gaza “genocide” article. At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested.

No it is not you willfully ignorant asshole, everyone with any shred of integrity is in agreement, this is a genocide of the Palestinian people.

A neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: “Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.”

What a coward.

Terribly disappointing.

To quote Rush "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

There is no "neutral" when it comes to genocide.

Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][1] Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term, defined genocide as "the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence".[2]

There's no subtlety in what is happening in Gaza. Go ahead and fuck off, Jimbo.

His words:

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It should go without saying that I am writing this in my personal capacity, and I am not speaking on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation or anyone else!

I assume good faith of everyone who has worked on this Gaza “genocide” article. At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested. This is a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV that requires immediate correction. Remember: "This policy is non-negotiable, and the principles upon which it is based cannot be superseded by other policies or guidelines, nor by editor consensus."

A neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: “Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.”
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What a wet lettuce.

In other news, Wikipedia will suddenly get an "anonymous donation" and will cease asking for funding...

TIL... Wikipedia founder doesn't believe the fucking mountains of evidence presented right there on Wikipedia itself.

This is peak liberalism.