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[+] lasers4eyes@piefed.zip 7 points 1 year ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) IP is important in the current capitalist world. In an ideal world I absolutely think IP would be abolished but without it there would be no way for a small company to make something and not have it stolen out from under them by a mega corp. I do not think current IP law is perfect or even very good now but under capitalism it is something that is necessary. Even in open source it matters because without it all the licenses in the world would not matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dojan@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) Right because all the big AI companies are currently paying big money to all the individual authors that they stole material from. Copyright doesn’t work. It doesn’t stop big corporations from doing whatever they want. They can wield it as a weapon to hammer individuals and small businesses with, and in the case of e.g. medicine it outright kills people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children) So what should be done so that authors and inventors are fairly compensated under our current economic system? I am not in support of capitalism to be clear but we are stuck with it for the foreseeable future and I don't want small authors to have large companies just steal their books and reprint them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago Patents can't be owned by companies. Only individuals. In the event of any patent being the result of a team effort each person responsible for its development is gets a proportion of profits from it. If person develops a patent while employed at a corporation that company owns a lease on the patent lasting 10 or 20 years or something . I'm sure there's holes in this you can drive a truck through but high level I feel like there is something there. I also can't be arsed to flesh it out further. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) They already do. Where have you been? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* You are aware that IP laws only apply to the masses (us) not to big corps, right? If any of us take any of theirs and reproduce (and potentially improve) it, we're almost certainly looking at jail time. But if those companies want to take any of our ideas and profit off of them without even giving us credit, then all's good. Fuck copyright, IP and all the similar shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) IP is important in the current capitalist world. In an ideal world I absolutely think IP would be abolished but without it there would be no way for a small company to make something and not have it stolen out from under them by a mega corp. I do not think current IP law is perfect or even very good now but under capitalism it is something that is necessary. Even in open source it matters because without it all the licenses in the world would not matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dojan@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) Right because all the big AI companies are currently paying big money to all the individual authors that they stole material from. Copyright doesn’t work. It doesn’t stop big corporations from doing whatever they want. They can wield it as a weapon to hammer individuals and small businesses with, and in the case of e.g. medicine it outright kills people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children) So what should be done so that authors and inventors are fairly compensated under our current economic system? I am not in support of capitalism to be clear but we are stuck with it for the foreseeable future and I don't want small authors to have large companies just steal their books and reprint them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago Patents can't be owned by companies. Only individuals. In the event of any patent being the result of a team effort each person responsible for its development is gets a proportion of profits from it. If person develops a patent while employed at a corporation that company owns a lease on the patent lasting 10 or 20 years or something . I'm sure there's holes in this you can drive a truck through but high level I feel like there is something there. I also can't be arsed to flesh it out further. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) They already do. Where have you been? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* You are aware that IP laws only apply to the masses (us) not to big corps, right? If any of us take any of theirs and reproduce (and potentially improve) it, we're almost certainly looking at jail time. But if those companies want to take any of our ideas and profit off of them without even giving us credit, then all's good. Fuck copyright, IP and all the similar shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) Right because all the big AI companies are currently paying big money to all the individual authors that they stole material from. Copyright doesn’t work. It doesn’t stop big corporations from doing whatever they want. They can wield it as a weapon to hammer individuals and small businesses with, and in the case of e.g. medicine it outright kills people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children) So what should be done so that authors and inventors are fairly compensated under our current economic system? I am not in support of capitalism to be clear but we are stuck with it for the foreseeable future and I don't want small authors to have large companies just steal their books and reprint them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago Patents can't be owned by companies. Only individuals. In the event of any patent being the result of a team effort each person responsible for its development is gets a proportion of profits from it. If person develops a patent while employed at a corporation that company owns a lease on the patent lasting 10 or 20 years or something . I'm sure there's holes in this you can drive a truck through but high level I feel like there is something there. I also can't be arsed to flesh it out further. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) They already do. Where have you been? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children) So what should be done so that authors and inventors are fairly compensated under our current economic system? I am not in support of capitalism to be clear but we are stuck with it for the foreseeable future and I don't want small authors to have large companies just steal their books and reprint them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago Patents can't be owned by companies. Only individuals. In the event of any patent being the result of a team effort each person responsible for its development is gets a proportion of profits from it. If person develops a patent while employed at a corporation that company owns a lease on the patent lasting 10 or 20 years or something . I'm sure there's holes in this you can drive a truck through but high level I feel like there is something there. I also can't be arsed to flesh it out further. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) They already do. Where have you been? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago Patents can't be owned by companies. Only individuals. In the event of any patent being the result of a team effort each person responsible for its development is gets a proportion of profits from it. If person develops a patent while employed at a corporation that company owns a lease on the patent lasting 10 or 20 years or something . I'm sure there's holes in this you can drive a truck through but high level I feel like there is something there. I also can't be arsed to flesh it out further. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) They already do. Where have you been? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fucking source‽ Yes companies do scummy shit with IP all the time but no companies are not reprinting books without paying authors unless there is some crazy contract bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/ai-training-on-pirated-data-targeted-at-senate-copyright-hearing https://todaysgeneralcounsel.com/federal-court-decision-sheds-new-light-on-ai-training-data-and-copyright-law/ And many more. Use any search engine, and look for "list all news about Ai training breaking ip laws", knock yourself out. And that's only AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* You are aware that IP laws only apply to the masses (us) not to big corps, right? If any of us take any of theirs and reproduce (and potentially improve) it, we're almost certainly looking at jail time. But if those companies want to take any of our ideas and profit off of them without even giving us credit, then all's good. Fuck copyright, IP and all the similar shit. permalink fedilink source parent