tbf yes normally there is a lot of special pleading around here but in this case the nazi's were socialists in the same way the democratic republic of north korea is a democracy

Nah, I mean, when decentralized workers' control in Anarchist Catalonia led to many local workers' councils prioritizing their own desires over the war effort even in the face of a literal fascist victory, that's a pretty distinct and socialist downside, for example.

But when a bunch of ghouls slap a coat of red paint or a few words on an ideology, that ain't enough to qualify as socialist.

When you butcher the definition of socialism, it’s easy to find downsides. Socialism has downsides, but when you’re arguing with somebody on the right, they generally have no idea what the definition is. So all the downsides they bring up have nothing to do with socialism.

No it truly is a name that doesn't match. Hitler hated it but the party was already formed. If it helps, put all the emphasis on NATIONAL.