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Will the Democrats gerrymander every state they control? (lemmy.world)
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Should the Democrats gerrymander ever state they have a trifecta in? Why should they put themselves at a disadvantage in the 2028 presidential elections?

Democrats now can remove all of the gerrymandering in the states they currently have control over. The districts would be redrawn by the state legislature to be more fair. They would remove all the GOP gerrymanders.

But if Trump and Republicans opposes the democrats legislation the democrats will heavily gerrymander all the states they currently have control over and change the retirement age of the state supreme courts.

So if Trump vetoes legislation Democrats heavily gerrymander one state. If he vetoes more legislation they gerrymander another state. If he vetoes more legislation they change the retirement age and appoint their own justices.

They could later negotiate with republicans to pass new Civil Rights Act banning all forms of gerrymandering and voter suppression.

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[–] 24 points 23 hours ago* (6 children)

No one should gerrymander.

I think there would be a lot of support for passing laws requiring specific non-partisan or bi-partisan redistricting though. There are a bunch of states with systems in place like independent commissions that can prevent the worst abuses. I think preventing the worst abuses can only really help the Democrats.

Now, what we could and should ask for is for every democractic legislature to pass the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. I'm pretty sure we have enough states now to make this happen.

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  • [–] 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    Yes. Dem-conteoled states should pass National popular vote. And then they should gerrymander to the most extreme maps they can.

    The Dems in Congress can draft a federal law banning gerrymandering nationwide, and the Republicans can either join in or die as a party.

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    National popular vote can and should happen but it has to be a state compact until it becomes an amendment. My big fear is that it isn't hard enough to overturn once a new state legislature is in place in any given state.

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  • [–] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    NPV would be insulated from SCOTUS bullshit by an explicit authorizing act. USC 1 § 10:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/section-10/clause-3/overview-of-the-compact-clause

    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, ....

    There is some precedent suggesting that a compact which decreases the power of the states wouldn't need it, but precedent also said abortion was a right, the 14th amendment was self-executing, and POTUS could forgive debts.

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago

    In the context of the current political landscape, I really do not agree.

    I completely agree that gerrymandering is bad. But the Tribunal of Six has repeatedly reinforced that they think it’s perfectly fine and legal.

    So, it’s time for malicious compliance. Do it so luridly, so grotesquely, so shamelessly, that the Six are forced to concede that they have concocted a strategy that leads to them losing if both sides resort to it, instead of only their side resorting to it.

    And yeah, it’s totally possible that they’ll be stubborn, regressive fucks in such a committed way that they refuse to concede that point; so the other side of the coin is to use the effect that rampant Democratic gerrymandering will have (steamrolling republican representation) to wrest control of the Supreme Court away from the Nationalist Christian-aligned Six by either packing it, or just waiting for them to die and doing it the “normal” way. Then, and only then, will the Supreme Court be in such a state that it will be able to rationally conclude that political gerrymandering is unconstitutional and caustic to the very fabric of the country and its society. The cherry on top would be if the Democratic Party sued itself alongside the Republican Party and brought that all the way to the Supreme Court, just to make it abundantly clear that gerrymandering was absolutely never the end goal.

    The third option is a non-fascist president having a monkey-paw moment and just shooting the Six dead as an “official act” (remember: the oath is to defend the union against enemies foreign and domestic), but that would surely cause just as many problems as it would solve.

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  • [–] 3 points 23 hours ago

    No one should gerrymander.

    Republicans gerry meandering is literally why we have such a huge House majority tho...

    The way it works is you try to sink all your opponents in one district, and keep a thin margin everywhere else. I said at the time it would backfire, and it did.

    Indiana was one of the few states "that stopped it", but the thing is if it wasn't stopped Republicans would have won a single seat in fucking Indiana.

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