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[–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure. I can agree with that. Though I think it is a bit besides the point. The real problematic part isn't how people call something or if they're agitated and oversimplify things. I mean that's not great either. But I think far more interesting issues are de-skilling, changing the industry for the worse, open-source projects now hooked on AI subscriptions by nasty companies... People letting their coding-agent draft something and they don't understand it's now not them anymore who constructed the basis of the project, chose the tooling and made the important design decisions... Or the same with drafting a book or letter. It seems like that's a simple and tiny step... But it's the most important one. Some people are afraid the next generation of people will sound like ChatGPT, start every dialogue with a reaffirmation and say lots of "it's not X, it's Y" because that's what they grew up with...

Also: I see far too much slop these days. We get several people each day advertising for shiny new projects they "wrote" (or they let their bot do it) and turns out a few of them actually compile and 1 in 10 doesn't get abandoned after a month... It's just way too much spam to me. And this isn't some rare exception... A lot of stuff currently gravitates towards that. Everything gets flooded with more stuff and everything is about attention. And it regularly isn't following the open-source spirit either. I can't contribute because the codebase is a huge mess, garnished with a massive amount of redundant documentation but all the important stuff is missing. And even if I do there's no one reading my PRs anyway... Which is kind of a letdown.

And then every company tries to replace quality with quantity. I get half-assed products with weird quirks, art which isn't art, "articles" with just incoherent ramblings...

I mean sure, I know there's like 10 people out there who do useful stuff with AI. I happen to use some of that. But still... That's far and in between. If you call something slop if it reeks of slop, you're kinda right 99% of the time. At least in my experience. And it usually bears consequences as well.

But calling everything slop isn’t helping, worse it’s benefiting a very small group of people.

Yeah, I think pretty much none of what we do is helping in any way. It's a decision of some big companies and powerful people to flood the world with "AI", fake stuff and whatever they like. And it's a trillion dollar business. Only thing that'd help is for example if the European Union mandates watermarking or forces people like Elon Musk to stop their nude generators... It's not really something we can do. And even in the realm of computer programming, it's really, really hard to convince management to adopt any kind of sane approach towards LLMs or quality of the product.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: I understand names are important and how we call stuff. But it's even more important what's actually happening out there, right now. And most of it isn't really concerned with how I for example handle it. All the bad stuff is pretty much forced upon me. And there's just an uncomfortable amount of it. And it doesn't even matter if I call your 22% coding-agent drafted project slop or not... What difference does it make? It's still the same thing.

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