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[+] -8 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

the discussion of ethics is irrelevant as long as we live in capitalism. there's not ethical consumption under capitalism, using ai is no different from eating chocolate or drinking coffee. you'd be surprised by the amount of slave labour that's used today. now, if you oppose because of technological limitations, such as water/energy consumption, this is a very different topic and it's not an ethical one, which to be honest is not even a very valid argument since it has been solved by open local models. then you might have an issue with the corporations behind some models, but that's not an issue with "AI". i also dislike the west, but to be AI is not israelgpt.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    "Everything is unethical therefore I don't have to make ethical choices" is bad logic and morally wrong

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  • [–] -5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    you don't understand how ethics works under capitalism. you didn't understand what i said. my point is that arguing for ethical consumption, which is the argument you're using, is a flase argument because it doesn't exist. if you want to address some of the other issues, there are possibilities for ethical change, tho!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Ethics aren't black and white but shades of grey. There are indeed more and less ethical choices to make within capitalism.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Have you seen this meme? That's you. That's what you sound like.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    no, that would be me if i'd say we can't move away from capitalism. i am a marxist leninist, i am very much in favour of ending this shit your people have imposed on the rest of mankind. the argument here is use or not use ai for ethical reason, this is what i oppose. it's not ethical, it's reactionary and it doesn't produce a better outcome. i am in favour of a more ethical ai. this implies open local models, not using western models, and regulation and standardization.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    I don't need you to tell me any of this, much less in such a condescending way, I am perfectly aware of how the world works. It does, however, amount to a rhetorical sidestep, and I know how it goes from here. Have a good one.

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