▲ 499 ▼ Amsterdam server seized at request of U.S. authorities after “far left” allegations (nltimes.nl) submitted 3 weeks ago by Forsho@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 87 comments fedilink hide all child comments Cosplaying to be anti “American Tech”, then kissing the empire hand for blessing. This is called “neoliberal euro syndrome”.
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) you're confusing actual leftists with MLs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] belochka@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) MLs are leftists, don't even try to pretend they are not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] belochka@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) MLs are leftists, don't even try to pretend they are not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent