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The freaking gall to put these sessions back to back (pxlmo.com)
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The freaking gall to put these sessions back to back...

I'm at my library's Staff Development Day, this is in the itinerary. I should speak up during it, but hopefully I won't be the only one though.

#library #librarian #fuckai @fuck_ai@lemmy.world

A cropped itinerary for a staff development day. Two back-to-back sessions are shown, "Libraries and AI: An Opportunity for Exploration and Collaboration" and "Misinformation, Information Literacy, and Public Libraries".
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[–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

I kinda thought all librarians would be on the same page (against “ai”) but it’s overwhelmingly been, “this is our future.”

Really sad because we should focus on information instead of use. And all the info we have on this is that outside of some specialized uses, this stuff is classist hype that will ruin our planet.

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  • [+] -19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

    The job of librarians is information management and retrieval.

    You can hate AI all you want, but you’d be a fool to ignore the biggest advance in your field’s tools in the past 20 years.

    edit: Everyone wants to downvote, nobody will tell me why I’m wrong.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (10 children)

    They're not ignoring it. They want to fight it. Because AI is not a better search algorithm, its surrendering structure and relationships to an unauditable black box process.

    Rather than democratizing information management you are intermediating an untrustworthy, hallucinating, spaghetti pile of code between humans and our corpus of knowledge. That's why.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

    Isn’t the right answer to learn mastery over these tools instead of surrendering or trying to hold back the tide?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    There is no mastery. There is no version of this tech that allows it to work at the level we expect information retrieval to be. It will always hallucinate, it will always be more computationally expensive than what we had before, and it will always have been built upon stolen information and media. Morally and practically it is inexcusable.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    You can learn how the enemy works without taking them out to dinner.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Surely you should learn their tactics?

    I don’t see how sticking your head in the sand does anything. Luddites had legitimate grievances, but today 99% of weaving is automated.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    This is a mischaracterization of the position. I am not sticking my head in the sand. I am questioning the value proposition of the technology. I use it for some things, and will not touch it for others.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Care to elaborate on what uses it's actually "good" for? I personally avoid it, always. I work in tech and all I've seen from friends and colleagues using it has been deranged or downright wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Copilot is great at telling me where stuff has moved in the interface. I have no idea why developers fuck with UIs so often. It's also helpful with Excel scripting.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    The point is not the retrieval, but the understanding of the information structure. The same way that the point of math problems is not the answer, but understanding the process. There is no advancement in learning by having something sitting next to you spitting out answers.

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