▲ 206 ▼ Charged my car yesterday while grocery shopping, this is how much it costs (lemmy.world) submitted 4 weeks ago by jaykrown@lemmy.world to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments In Chicago area for anyone wondering using the Walmart charging network. This is about ~13% capacity, wasn't really low started charging at about 70%.
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) is it? 5 bucks, rounded, for 13%? means that’s like 40 bucks for 100%? my tank of gasoline is like 100 bucks for 100%. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dregan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Yes, it is. Obscenely so. Why are you comparing it to a tank of gasoline MPG? It's not gasoline. Compare it to how much you can buy a KWh from the local utility company. This would be the profit equivalent of a gas station charging you around $15 for a gallon of regular. EDIT: You know, now that I think about it, they are selling power to the public. Why do they not have to abide by the rates set forth by the PUC (OUC)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ydna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I always assumed the cost of the infrastructure was past of the kilowatt price. I know at my school it cost them about $300k to install a half dozen charge stations. Commercial construction like that is stupidly expensive compared to running a charger at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dregan@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Yeah, I estimated infrastructure in that $15 number to be similar infrastructure cost as a gas station. It turns out infrastructure costs for a gas station are far higher than a charging station so the gouging is even worse than that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago i am not considering mpg just amt to get to full. i dont disagree it’s high but i have no exp with elec vehicles. i’ll take your word for it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] lama@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Couple things here but in general the fast chargers are pretty expensive. The range on EV is usually smaller than a gas car. So comparing a full tank for you vs a full tank for them might not be a good comparison Around where I live the worst fast charger rate ( which is basically all reasonable hours of the day) is 60% to 100% more expensive than either home electricity or level 2 charging rates. It seemed to me that fast charging was priced so that it was close to gas prices while home charging was totally disconnected from gas prices. Not sure if this observation has held up now with gas price spikes, I haven't been fast charging recently so out of the loop permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago cool! thanks for the reply! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dregan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children) Yes, it is. Obscenely so. Why are you comparing it to a tank of gasoline MPG? It's not gasoline. Compare it to how much you can buy a KWh from the local utility company. This would be the profit equivalent of a gas station charging you around $15 for a gallon of regular. EDIT: You know, now that I think about it, they are selling power to the public. Why do they not have to abide by the rates set forth by the PUC (OUC)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ydna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I always assumed the cost of the infrastructure was past of the kilowatt price. I know at my school it cost them about $300k to install a half dozen charge stations. Commercial construction like that is stupidly expensive compared to running a charger at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dregan@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Yeah, I estimated infrastructure in that $15 number to be similar infrastructure cost as a gas station. It turns out infrastructure costs for a gas station are far higher than a charging station so the gouging is even worse than that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago i am not considering mpg just amt to get to full. i dont disagree it’s high but i have no exp with elec vehicles. i’ll take your word for it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ydna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I always assumed the cost of the infrastructure was past of the kilowatt price. I know at my school it cost them about $300k to install a half dozen charge stations. Commercial construction like that is stupidly expensive compared to running a charger at home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dregan@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Yeah, I estimated infrastructure in that $15 number to be similar infrastructure cost as a gas station. It turns out infrastructure costs for a gas station are far higher than a charging station so the gouging is even worse than that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dregan@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Yeah, I estimated infrastructure in that $15 number to be similar infrastructure cost as a gas station. It turns out infrastructure costs for a gas station are far higher than a charging station so the gouging is even worse than that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago i am not considering mpg just amt to get to full. i dont disagree it’s high but i have no exp with elec vehicles. i’ll take your word for it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lama@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Couple things here but in general the fast chargers are pretty expensive. The range on EV is usually smaller than a gas car. So comparing a full tank for you vs a full tank for them might not be a good comparison Around where I live the worst fast charger rate ( which is basically all reasonable hours of the day) is 60% to 100% more expensive than either home electricity or level 2 charging rates. It seemed to me that fast charging was priced so that it was close to gas prices while home charging was totally disconnected from gas prices. Not sure if this observation has held up now with gas price spikes, I haven't been fast charging recently so out of the loop permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago cool! thanks for the reply! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago cool! thanks for the reply! permalink fedilink source parent