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privacy question: i like framwork but how do you make it private (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/framework@lemmy.ml
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i have an issue where google tracks me even using very private browsers and linux distros like tails and qubes and anti fingerprint

someone said it might be because of framework

how do i fix (is there a cheap option i dont care about inconveince or spending a lot of time it just has to work)

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[–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

There are no "official" or "trusted" instances. The instances listed on Invidious' site meet (or should meet) a certain set of criteria. Several of those items could be considered bare minimum for hosting any website over 10 years ago (eg: be served via https, must have a domain) or are about other availability metrics. I'm not saying you shouldn't trust any of those instances, but just want to clarify that it doesn't necessarily mean that the instances are endorsed or trusted by the Invidious team. Instead, it is just a directory of instances that meet some minimum criteria.

I didn't check all of the instances currently on the list, but instances that were previously on the list did not proxy all traffic from YouTube. Since this is not an requirement to be included on Invidious' list of instances, I assume that there are likely one or more instance that is not proxying the YouTube traffic.

If the traffic is not proxies, then your browser will interact directly with YouTube's servers for some content (typically the actual video content). While this prevents you from interacting with YouTube's frontend (and all the tracking that comes with that), it does not prevent YouTube from identifying which videos were served to your IP address, which parts of the video were requested, or other identifying information.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    in the settings it says it proxies.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I assume you mean the settings within the instance (or more accurately, your session) of Invidious states that it proxies the activity. However, if you're just referring to Invidious itself, this is a setting that can be enabled/disabled for the entire Invidious instance. The instance's default setting could also be disabled even if the instance supports proxying. Regardless, you could verify Invidious is proxying everything by reviewing the networking tab of your browser's developer tools to confirm that all traffic is with your Invidious instance.

    Given everything you said, it sounds like any recommendations you receive within Invidious is most likely due to the collective activity of all users on that Invidious instance. Additionally, any recommendations you receive directly on YouTube is likely from other information YouTube collected about you (not your Invidious activity).

    While I cannot definitely confirm that this has absolutely nothing to do with Framework, I cannot imagine anyone knowledgeable about this arguing in good faith that Framework is complicity and secretly acting to violate your privacy.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago

    i dont believe framework is intentionally trying to violate my privacy. much less me very specifically.

    if the recommendations are collective id imagine id see videos other people are interested in. Ill have to test this later on someone elses device

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