A lot of these guys think there's loads and loads of centrist voters who the DNC can sway with a more moderate candidate. It's failed to work repeatedly because most "independent centrists" are just racist ass Republicans who don't want their families to know they're pieces of shit. If you're not anti GOP at this point, you're a lost cause afaic.

The hype a candidate like AOC could muster with younger generations is what they should be aiming for, but they don't donate or vote in primaries so they'll be ignored and won't turn out, again.

It's literally just racist misogyny. They cannot be convinced that Clinton and Kamala being women isn't the sole reason (with the addition of brown skin for Kamala) they lost despite the many failings of both if their campaigns.

She doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. She has a lot of good positions, but I haven't heard her articulate them well. She said that Harris was "working tirelessly to secure a cease-fire in Gaza", something which we know wasn't true, and more recently brushed off Black Lives Matter, etc. as 'Woke 1 was craazzyyy ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ"

There's a good article about her backpedaling here.

There has to be somebody better.

Something I keep seeing on Lemmy is that she sided with Israel instead of Palestine. To me, that feels like a terrible argument. Neither threatens US. Yet I don't see arguments how Trump sided with Russia while Harris would side with Europe. You know, the Russia that also actively seeks to destroy US.

• Woman

• Not white

• Inexperienced

• Would be youngest president in history

• Too far left

These things may not matter to you, the inexperience is the only one that matters to me, but I absolutely promise you they matter to a significant number of Americans. Significant enough to put another Republican in control and further erode our already eroding democracy.

Gambling isn't smart. Especially when you're gambling with democracy. AOC is a biiiiiig gamble.