starelfsc2 comments on Young people increasingly don't trust AI - or the billionaires that keep telling us we should all love AI, survey finds

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

Older people aren't stupid and awful, they are just generally more set in their ways, and factually ARE more vulnerable to misinformation and lies, which is why they're the most vulnerable to scams.

The previous generation, at least in America, was far more repressed and had far less access to information than we do today, which results in more narrow-minded beliefs. Not all old people are like this, but the comment you're talking about said "old people don't trust ai" which is not true. Old people as a group do, this person as an individual in that group does not.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Old people as a group don't exist. There is no monolith based on simple traits like age, or race, or gender. While more members of one specific group sharing any of these traits can be likely to trust or mistrust or agree with anything, boiling them down to a singular opinion or mental state is always wrong. It's discriminatory.

You saying old people as a group do trust AI is as fucked up as saying that black people as a group do love watermelon.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

All groupings are arbitrary, it just (sometimes) provides utility to group on some shared attributes. It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they're necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline), but being older does mean you had less access to multiculturalism, less inundation with scams and technology growing up, and more propaganda that is harder to find counterpoints to.

It's fully accurate to say "older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more" without that being an attack on any particular old person. That's a reality old people and young people need to be aware of, whether it's for an older person to reflect if that's happening to them, or a younger person to help an older person with.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It’s fully accurate to say “older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more” without that being an attack on any particular old person.

Depending on the area you live in and the the total range of the statistics it can be fully accurate to say that "black people generally love watermelon and fried chicken and are more likely to steal your bike" and for that to not be an attack on any individual person, but also fuck you. Get it? Just because statistics show a thing doesn't mean you're not being a piece of shit for using those statistics to denigrate a massive group of people.

Using statistics chosen because they do denigrate a group of people and then acting like it's not your fault these are what the statistics show is pretty common from hater assholes towards any group.

It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they’re necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline)

This one is fantastic, since several studies have come out showing that Gen Z is the first generation to be less cognitively capable than the one that came before it. They don't even have leaded gasoline to point to as an excuse. Somehow I don't think they'd be super happy to see the internet flooded with people assuming anyone in that age range is an idiot.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

You have to live in reality idk what to say, if black people commit more crime in an area I want to have that information so I can figure out why so I can prevent it (outreach programs specifically targeted at black kids for instance), if you say it as a dogwhistle to other racists that's a different story.

I think genZ is absolutely cooked for different reasons (AI, social media, tiktok, covid lockdowns during a critical part of development) and I wouldn't be surprised if they're also an at-risk group to scams.

If your goal is to dogwhisle or denigrate based on identity then yes that's wrong, but old people are the majority of the voting block and they majority voted for Trump. Saying "old people are racist and closed-minded" is false. Saying "old people are NOT racist and closed-minded" is even more false.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's almost as if lumping people into categories based on traits they have no control over that have nothing to do with the issue at hand and proclaiming things about the entire group is wrong.

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