▲ 40 ▼ Gavin Newsom urges a national 'billionaires' tax' while fighting one in California (www.theguardian.com) submitted 4 months ago by RabbleRebel@lemmy.wtf to c/politics@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] echo@lemmy.today -2 points 4 months ago (7 children) Makes sense, actually. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (6 children) He knows it won't pass at the national level, so he doesn't mind supporting it in that case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echo@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) There is that and the fact that it should be a national thing to shut down avoidance options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago There's a lot of value to banishing billionaires from your state. If they don't live somewhere, they're going to be less tempted to spend money to influence the laws there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago* But we don't want them here and California, except for the billionaires and their lackeys and orange county and Fresno and certain undesirable transients plaguing sacramento is a genuinely wonderful place to live if you're not one of the fire-slaves or something. Fixing one of those problems would still be a success, and it would deny them something nice that they want. Which would also be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children) Can also be in the sense that if you enact it in California then they can pick up and leave for Texas or Florida and still mess up the country’s politics but leave California without the ability to get any taxes from them. Whereas if you enact it nationwide then they’d have to skip the country entirely to dodge it which would be more difficult and not advantage states that don’t agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) No one really leaves. Pack up and move to a shithole flyover state? Yeah right. Oh and if I’m wrong? Good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago There was a net internal migration of ~300k people out of California last year, some mega rich have moved too. Red states gaining population and money get boosted electoral college votes and more political influence to sway the entire country rather than just their own states. They’re not disappearing into a vacuum unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (6 children) He knows it won't pass at the national level, so he doesn't mind supporting it in that case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echo@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) There is that and the fact that it should be a national thing to shut down avoidance options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago There's a lot of value to banishing billionaires from your state. If they don't live somewhere, they're going to be less tempted to spend money to influence the laws there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago* But we don't want them here and California, except for the billionaires and their lackeys and orange county and Fresno and certain undesirable transients plaguing sacramento is a genuinely wonderful place to live if you're not one of the fire-slaves or something. Fixing one of those problems would still be a success, and it would deny them something nice that they want. Which would also be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children) Can also be in the sense that if you enact it in California then they can pick up and leave for Texas or Florida and still mess up the country’s politics but leave California without the ability to get any taxes from them. Whereas if you enact it nationwide then they’d have to skip the country entirely to dodge it which would be more difficult and not advantage states that don’t agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) No one really leaves. Pack up and move to a shithole flyover state? Yeah right. Oh and if I’m wrong? Good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago There was a net internal migration of ~300k people out of California last year, some mega rich have moved too. Red states gaining population and money get boosted electoral college votes and more political influence to sway the entire country rather than just their own states. They’re not disappearing into a vacuum unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echo@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) There is that and the fact that it should be a national thing to shut down avoidance options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago There's a lot of value to banishing billionaires from your state. If they don't live somewhere, they're going to be less tempted to spend money to influence the laws there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago* But we don't want them here and California, except for the billionaires and their lackeys and orange county and Fresno and certain undesirable transients plaguing sacramento is a genuinely wonderful place to live if you're not one of the fire-slaves or something. Fixing one of those problems would still be a success, and it would deny them something nice that they want. Which would also be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago There's a lot of value to banishing billionaires from your state. If they don't live somewhere, they're going to be less tempted to spend money to influence the laws there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago* But we don't want them here and California, except for the billionaires and their lackeys and orange county and Fresno and certain undesirable transients plaguing sacramento is a genuinely wonderful place to live if you're not one of the fire-slaves or something. Fixing one of those problems would still be a success, and it would deny them something nice that they want. Which would also be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children) Can also be in the sense that if you enact it in California then they can pick up and leave for Texas or Florida and still mess up the country’s politics but leave California without the ability to get any taxes from them. Whereas if you enact it nationwide then they’d have to skip the country entirely to dodge it which would be more difficult and not advantage states that don’t agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) No one really leaves. Pack up and move to a shithole flyover state? Yeah right. Oh and if I’m wrong? Good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago There was a net internal migration of ~300k people out of California last year, some mega rich have moved too. Red states gaining population and money get boosted electoral college votes and more political influence to sway the entire country rather than just their own states. They’re not disappearing into a vacuum unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) No one really leaves. Pack up and move to a shithole flyover state? Yeah right. Oh and if I’m wrong? Good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nautalax@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago There was a net internal migration of ~300k people out of California last year, some mega rich have moved too. Red states gaining population and money get boosted electoral college votes and more political influence to sway the entire country rather than just their own states. They’re not disappearing into a vacuum unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago There was a net internal migration of ~300k people out of California last year, some mega rich have moved too. Red states gaining population and money get boosted electoral college votes and more political influence to sway the entire country rather than just their own states. They’re not disappearing into a vacuum unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent