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[–] 36 points 4 months ago (9 children)

You still can. It will just suck and inconvenience after awhile.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    actually you can't.

    have kids? you'll have them taken from you or have to fight tooth a nail with every penny you can scrape together thus forcing you to comply and be a cog.

    no kids? you'll have social services called on you relentlessly because you're a danger to yourself. you will have your autonomy stripped from you and force-fed medication until you comply.

    married? same as before but you'll be put in jail for spousal abuse if you're a man or interred into a psych ward if you're a woman.

    if you don't believe you're enslaved by the corporation, fafo.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know what kind of place you're living in, but around here you're quite free to do as you please as long as you don't interfere with other people. Your children must receive some kind of schooling (which they can get for free), but other than that nobody will get in your way.

    Not sure how exactly it would work in practice. You will need some way to feed yourself and your kids, and you will need to pay property taxes if you own land. That's not so much about corporate enslavement, but more about recognising that you're living on land that is being supported by the national infrastructure. And it's not a huge amount, especially if your land isn't worth much.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    in the US property taxes vary on location. let's say I owned 100 acres in Montana. property taxes would likely be $10-20 thousand dollars.

    if I owned 100 acres in California it would be closer to $1 million.

    I own 1.5 acres in the Midwest in a densely populated area and my yearly property tax is $8,000.

    the only way I can afford that is by working my high paying, high demand, high stress, IT job. if I wanted to live "off the grid" so to speak, I would need at least $1 million to start with. 2+ acres of rural property (if you can find any that hasn't already been stolen by corporations) start at $250k. to build a home is an additional $300k. solar, water, and other infra will run an additional $150k. I plan on living for another 50 years. Tax at $8000 a year and a 2.15% increase over those 50 years comes to around $130k.

    so that leaves me with $170k to live on for 50 years. That's $283 a month in living expenditures. that doesn't cover living expenses like vehicles, property upkeep, home repair, health and wellness, etc.

    so, I throw in close to $1 million dollars into a dream and I fuck up once and it's all taken from me. my kids, my house, my marriage, everything. and you want to summarize it down to "you just need to recognize you're living on land being supported by national infrastructure".

    get the fuck out of here. we're fucking slaves and there's no way out except for taking a dirt nap.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Ah, for sure, if you want the money to have a large piece of land and a house, a car, private healthcare, then you're talking about the life of a rich man (from my perspective). You want to own property worth a million dollars plus, as you point out.

    If you can get by without that much property, things get a lot easier. In the extreme you could live like a vagabond. In my Scandinavian home country some people live decent lives on the road without much property. Not comfortable lives, but not necessarily bad ones either.

    Or with modest US savings you could move to a cheaper country and build a little life there.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Weird I see a lot of homeless people all the time that do that, granted its becoming illegal in a lot of places now

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    weird, ask them if they're happy.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    In this big world there is someone who made that choice and is happy regardless of the struggle, I'm sure most didn't have the luxury of choice.

    I'm just saying that it is possible, and agree to the original comment that it will suck and be an inconvenience

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    basically you are not allowed to just live somewhere and live off the land. every place is owned by somebody. Even if you own your own farm you pay property taxes and stuff.

    To escape the hamster wheel you just have to be rich and live off of interest. Or be a landlord.

    In all honesty, its prolly not possible for most of us. But if you have or want children, you can set them up to have a better life than you. Educate them financially, die before you spend more money than you make. Hope they dont spend it all on coke and iphones.

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