▲ 167 ▼ El Niño forms in Pacific as experts say it will likely turbocharge extreme weather | Meteorologists predict it will be the strongest of century, UN secretary-general calls it ‘urgent climate warning’ (www.theguardian.com) submitted 5 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (4 children) Maybe we should bomb an oil refinery permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Bomb the billionaires. Far less collateral effects, far more effective for sustained change. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) That causes a lot of local harm. You get a wide variety of oil byproducts dumped on all the people within a few miles of the refinery and if it used HF as a catalyst, you may immediately kill a huge number of people. Graceful shutdown is far preferable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago To be fair all of that is still true while the refinery is running. There's a reason that Refinery Row and the Cancer Belt overlap almost perfectly in texas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* We've been trying to gracefully shut them down for 50 years. I think the short term consequences outweigh the long term consequences of not doing it. But it probably makes more sense to target the boats trying to pickup the oil from the refineries, while they're empty. Yemen and Iran have shown the efficacy of underwater suicide drones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Bomb the billionaires. Far less collateral effects, far more effective for sustained change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) That causes a lot of local harm. You get a wide variety of oil byproducts dumped on all the people within a few miles of the refinery and if it used HF as a catalyst, you may immediately kill a huge number of people. Graceful shutdown is far preferable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago To be fair all of that is still true while the refinery is running. There's a reason that Refinery Row and the Cancer Belt overlap almost perfectly in texas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* We've been trying to gracefully shut them down for 50 years. I think the short term consequences outweigh the long term consequences of not doing it. But it probably makes more sense to target the boats trying to pickup the oil from the refineries, while they're empty. Yemen and Iran have shown the efficacy of underwater suicide drones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago To be fair all of that is still true while the refinery is running. There's a reason that Refinery Row and the Cancer Belt overlap almost perfectly in texas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* We've been trying to gracefully shut them down for 50 years. I think the short term consequences outweigh the long term consequences of not doing it. But it probably makes more sense to target the boats trying to pickup the oil from the refineries, while they're empty. Yemen and Iran have shown the efficacy of underwater suicide drones. permalink fedilink source parent