“I’ve put a couple kids in the hospital, and they have been sick, but they recovered,” McAfee acknowledged before my visit. “But here’s the thing: I’m a pioneer. And I’m going against the grain here. I’m climbing a mountain they say you can’t climb.”

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“We catch these things and divert the milk immediately,” McAfee said of the pathogens.

I assumed that after diverting batches, the farm discarded them.

Later that day, I learned otherwise.

“We have a red-flag system here, where if there’s anything that gets really out of whack, they can immediately tag the milk, and it doesn’t go to anything but cheese,” McAfee told me. “Because, you know, cheese is resistant to pathogens.”

Research has shown that raw cheese is not, in fact, resistant to pathogens; while aging can mitigate some risk, harmful bacteria can still survive the usual 60-day maturation process.

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[–] 33 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Nobody said it's a mountain you can't climb. What pathologists and others have been saying is that we've climbed this mountain before, and people got sick, some died, so let's decide rationally to not "climb this mountain" a.k.a. not do this raw milk thing anymore.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    It's also a mountain that literally everyone climbed for thousands of years before Louis Pasteur. This isn't some new fucking concept, it's the default form of milk lol

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Right, and with Pasteur a large fraction of the population shifted. And before that, for instance, heating milk before inoculating it with yogurt culture was a practice for a very long time.

    Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteurization - adopted late 1800s

    https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The fuck happened in Asia during the 50s? Is that Maos fuckup and resulting famine or am I missing something.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Bingo! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine - 1959-1961 - 15-55 million famine deaths. Damn!

    "It is widely regarded as the deadliest famine and one of the greatest man-made disasters in human history, with an estimated death toll due to starvation that ranges in the tens of millions (15 to 55 million), with newer estimates concentrated around 30 to 46 million excess famine deaths."

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