▲ 8 ▼ Is it impossible to check Proton Mail with Thunderbird for free? (programming.dev) submitted 5 months ago by Flagstaff@programming.dev to c/thunderbird@lemmy.world 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments What I read online seemed to say that Proton Bridge is required, and is not free. That sucks, if so...
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (5 children) Proton bridge is required for external apps and only with paid accounts Remember if you’re not paying you’re the product permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) ... except in FOSS! 😍 You are absolutely not the product nor paying with Syncthing, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Unless/until it’s acquired like audacity or simplemobiletools (which tbf was forked into fossify without the ad garbage). Then there’s just the poor decisions of major projects like Firefox. Even Ubuntu like a decade ago had a brief period where it served amazon ads and integrated with facebook/twitter for user data sharing, though they quickly walked that back because users were furious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) Sure, but the general principle is that it's easier to find goodness in FOSS than badness. Like you said with the forks, life, uh, finds a way; I use Firefox forks Waterfox and Floorp. I use Linux Mint, a cleaned Ubuntu derivative. How many for-profit equivalents are better? What is the percentage? Consider all FOSS offline games, for example. There is true heart in this stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I ageee that foss is the way to go generally, my point is more don’t blindly trust foss to be altruistic. A devs gotta eat and sometimes that (foolishly) becomes engagement with the ad machine monster (especially given donations are often overlooked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) ... except in FOSS! 😍 You are absolutely not the product nor paying with Syncthing, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Unless/until it’s acquired like audacity or simplemobiletools (which tbf was forked into fossify without the ad garbage). Then there’s just the poor decisions of major projects like Firefox. Even Ubuntu like a decade ago had a brief period where it served amazon ads and integrated with facebook/twitter for user data sharing, though they quickly walked that back because users were furious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) Sure, but the general principle is that it's easier to find goodness in FOSS than badness. Like you said with the forks, life, uh, finds a way; I use Firefox forks Waterfox and Floorp. I use Linux Mint, a cleaned Ubuntu derivative. How many for-profit equivalents are better? What is the percentage? Consider all FOSS offline games, for example. There is true heart in this stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I ageee that foss is the way to go generally, my point is more don’t blindly trust foss to be altruistic. A devs gotta eat and sometimes that (foolishly) becomes engagement with the ad machine monster (especially given donations are often overlooked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Unless/until it’s acquired like audacity or simplemobiletools (which tbf was forked into fossify without the ad garbage). Then there’s just the poor decisions of major projects like Firefox. Even Ubuntu like a decade ago had a brief period where it served amazon ads and integrated with facebook/twitter for user data sharing, though they quickly walked that back because users were furious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) Sure, but the general principle is that it's easier to find goodness in FOSS than badness. Like you said with the forks, life, uh, finds a way; I use Firefox forks Waterfox and Floorp. I use Linux Mint, a cleaned Ubuntu derivative. How many for-profit equivalents are better? What is the percentage? Consider all FOSS offline games, for example. There is true heart in this stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I ageee that foss is the way to go generally, my point is more don’t blindly trust foss to be altruistic. A devs gotta eat and sometimes that (foolishly) becomes engagement with the ad machine monster (especially given donations are often overlooked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) Sure, but the general principle is that it's easier to find goodness in FOSS than badness. Like you said with the forks, life, uh, finds a way; I use Firefox forks Waterfox and Floorp. I use Linux Mint, a cleaned Ubuntu derivative. How many for-profit equivalents are better? What is the percentage? Consider all FOSS offline games, for example. There is true heart in this stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I ageee that foss is the way to go generally, my point is more don’t blindly trust foss to be altruistic. A devs gotta eat and sometimes that (foolishly) becomes engagement with the ad machine monster (especially given donations are often overlooked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I ageee that foss is the way to go generally, my point is more don’t blindly trust foss to be altruistic. A devs gotta eat and sometimes that (foolishly) becomes engagement with the ad machine monster (especially given donations are often overlooked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago Oh. Yes, fully agreed! And even the benevolent can still get hacked by malicious forces... permalink fedilink source parent