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Purely for enjoyment (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
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[–] 87 points 5 months ago (22 children)

gaining then

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    Depends on how many calories you've burned and how many you've eaten. It could be a break-even smoothie, you don't know

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  • [+] -14 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    Unless you ran to a farm to milk a cow, then to a different farm to pick the fruit and back home, it's very unlikely to be close to break even.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    You don't understand what I said then. You do not know the necessary information to make the judgement on whether this will make a person gain weight: you do not know

    • the ingredients in the smoothie (could be fuckin yogurt, milk and berries for all you know, which could be like 100-200kcal)

    Or

    • the amount of calories that person has or will burn that day (if they are in a caloric deficit higher than the calories in the smoothie, it will not cause weight gain)

    The existence of calories don't automatically cause weight gain, excess calories cause weight gain.

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  • [+] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Then it isn't for gaining, it's for enjoyment. My point remains the same, we don't know whether this smoothie will push this person into caloric excess, and I'm sick of people making asinine statements about things they literally could not know about.

    Additionally, to judge food on whether its purpose is for gaining and losing weight is some eating-disorder-ass shit, which I have no fucking tolerance for. Food is neutral and holds no moral implications, and its purposes extend to fuel and enjoyment, exclusively.

    Seen way too many friends almost die from this kind of rhetoric to not say anything.

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  • [+] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I don't care if people think im taking it too seriously. That kind of rhetoric 100% influences people who are vulnerable to eating disorders.

    The person in the original post who said "for enjoyment" was trying to counteract that kind of rhetoric, and to respond with "for gaining then" is fucking asinine -- and I'll admit I responded emotionally, but I've been bombarded with subtle, plausibly deniable jabs about food like this my Entire. Fucking. Life. On all sides. I'm tired of it, so ya, I'll call it out when I see it even if somebody thinks im taking it too seriously, because if it helps one person reading it feel heard and avoid falling into disordered eating, it's a net positive imo.

    I know a lot of people don't consider fatphobia to be a real problem, but I consider it a tool of fascism since it's a really effective way to keep women weak. What better way to ensure they are easily controlled than to create a beauty standard that requires starvation?

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Lol at the amount of calories you think are in milk yogurt and berries.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    1/4 cup 2% milk: 30kcal

    1/3 cup Greek yogurt: 100kcal

    1/2 cup frozen mixed berries: 39kcal

    Plus ice and maybe zero calorie sweetener if you want it.

    Total estimated calories: 169kcal

    Which is between 100 and 200kcal.

    Not every smoothie has a bunch of added sugar. I've literally made smoothies like this before. That's how I know. How often do you track calories, my dude?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think you’re right in this argument, but that’s a tiny smoothie. It’s barely more than a cup.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Ice has no calories and takes up a lot of space in smoothies. Again, ive made smoothies like this so many times and theyre delicious. Smoothies do not have to be huge -- i understand when you're purchasing one they tend to have more stuff in them to get the value you're paying, but homemade smoothies tend to be about a cup or so, plus ice.

    To get mathy:

    All of those add up tp roughly 1.1cup without ice

    1.1cup translates to 312ml

    1 can of soda, beer, whatever is 355ml (diff is 43ml)

    If you put ice in a glass, you can easily fill it with a can.

    If you add a decent amount of ice to the smoothie, it'll be a very reasonably sized smoothie. It may not fill a pint glass, but I do not want to drink that much smoothie lol

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, whole milk is 62 kcal per 100ml, plain yoghurt is 66 and berries are another 60... So for a glass of smoothie (I would assume around 20cl), it's quite realistic for it to be maximum 150 kcal, even accounting for some sugar to sweeten it...

    Or am I totally wrong with my calculation?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    We're going to be using different measurements, but the gist of it is that the glass pictured is 16 to 22oz in size. 8oz (one cup) of milk is about 150 calories. Yogurt (plain) is generally the same, unless you use low fat lite yogurt. So just filling the cup with only yogurt and milk is 300 calories. Blueberries are around 80 a cup.

    So there's just no real way you're getting a smoothie that size under 200 calories.

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