Absolutely fascinating, thanks for explaining!

I have messy feelings on policing. I once felt it was an institution with the potential to be a positive and important one, if it were to go through enough reform. But I have more recently learned that sociological research generally doesn't support the notion that its an effective intervention for crime barring one particular form of policing (I think it was regular patrolling?) And it can absolutely contribute to the actual root causes of crime as we understand them academically (poverty, systemic disenfranchisement/systemic disinvestment)

I think in general I'm also reaching the conclusion I think carceral justice is a really dysfunctional and counterproductive way to handle harms, but I also feel its important for there to be people investigating who is responsible for harms.

And I'm not entirely sure how I see those things being synthesized just yet.

As always, thanks for teaching us stuff and giving us the benefit of learning from how things have been different and similar throughout history :)