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France pulls last gold held in US for $15B gain (www.mining.com)
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[–] 3 points 7 months ago (12 children)

As a European and USA being the major part in saving us from Nazism in WW2, and the Marshall help after, we tended to believe in USA as a force for good. And the moon landing in 69 demonstrated the American superiority at the time. So we chose to support the American global dominance because we had similar ideals of democracy and human rights. In EU today respecting human rights is even part of the requirements to be a member. Unfortunately USA has forgotten the ideals, and are now using their strength exclusively to serve the interests of the 1%.

USA blockading Cuba is an example, Cuba did nothing to deserve that, Trump probably wants to build big hotels and holiday resorts.
And yes it is double standards, like insanely immoral Christians that celebrate taking away healthcare from people, and killing brown people. Ironically a lot of those Christians are brown too?!!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    And yes it is double standards, like insanely immoral Christians that celebrate taking away healthcare from people, and killing brown people. Ironically a lot of those Christians are brown too?!!

    They might think they are Christians, but they'd be wrong. They are Mammonites.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    and USA being the major part in saving us from Nazism in WW2

    The soviets toppled Hitler.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They too had help from USA. Soviet only defended themselves, and instated another almost as bad regime throughout the countries they occupied.
    There is no comparison.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They too had help from USA.

    Yes, they did. I never implied otherwise.

    Soviet only defended themselves,

    What? They literally invaded Berlin. Arrived days before the americans.

    and instated another almost as bad regime throughout the countries they occupied.

    So you say. You're entitled to have your own opinion.

    There is no comparison.

    You're free to keep idolizing the USA too. Their propaganda is really good.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not

    tl;dr in 1945 nobody was confused that the USSR defeated the Nazis, it took until the 1990s for this perception to shift to the belief the US defeated the Nazis.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Stop your revisionism, the USA was not the major part of in saving us from the Germans. They convinced us they were, that much is true.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    the USA was not the major part of in saving us from the Germans

    Strictly speaking, they were more pivotal in the Pacific front of the war, where they saved China from Japan.

    But you've really got your blinkers on if you're going to ignore the Lend-Lease program, which provided the Soviets with 400,000+ trucks, 14,000+ aircraft, 13,000+ tanks, and 4.5 million tons of food.

    Like, it was a team effort. No single country single-handedly won (or lost) WW2. The real tragedy of the war's end was our inability to disarm and diplomacy our way to a real unity planet. In that sense, everyone ultimately lost WW2.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    You're an idiot

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    even if that's true, telling them this doesn't help them or solve their ignorance - just a thought that we can have more or less useful reactions to ignorance, we don't want to incentivize doubling down on false beliefs for example

    EDIT: I thought you wrote "you're an idiot" in response to the person claiming the US defeated the Nazis, nevermind.

    Most Europeans in 1945 believed the USSR toppled Nazi Germany, it really is only after the USSR collapsed four decades later and the US took global supremacy that people started to say things like the US defeated the Nazis.

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